Stix wrote:Im a trailboss user & am very confident with it.
Im wondering if anyone has any experience with loading centrefire cartridges with this powder (AS50N), for reduced loads...?
And if so, is following standard protocol (say starting loads with 70% case volume & work up) a relatively safe thing to do...?
Stix wrote:Thanks ob...i missed your post earlier...
Id be interested to load any cases really...
Prob start with smaller ones like 204, &/or 22-250...& others if it works easily & safely...
SCJ429 wrote:You would start with about four grains of trailboss in your 204, if you put that much AS30 into the case does it only fill it around 20%? If so I wouldn't try it. If you try 70% or around 20 grains of AS30 I would expect extreme pressure and your action may fail. I would not want to pull the trigger or be nearby. The most reduced load other than Trailboss that I would try would be 2207 with light 24 grain projectiles and even then the speed is going to be in excess of Mach 3. You might have to save your AS30 for straight walled pistol cases.
slickncghia wrote:Look for something that can be loaded with ADI 2206H. then google Hogdon H4895
Oldbloke wrote:Some are missing the point.
He has 4kg of AS 50N he would like to use up.
Stix wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Some are missing the point.
He has 4kg of AS 50N he would like to use up.
Yar pretty sharp for an old bloke...
Stix wrote:Hi gwion, unfortunately all the blokes i know are bludy stooges mate...they would all want it for nothing...!!!
If i could get decent payed work in the bush & live on a farm id buy 2 clay throwers & zoom through the powder...!!!
Ill use it eventually i guess...
ADI never returned my email either...
Oldbloke wrote:Stix wrote:Hi gwion, unfortunately all the blokes i know are bludy stooges mate...they would all want it for nothing...!!!
If i could get decent payed work in the bush & live on a farm id buy 2 clay throwers & zoom through the powder...!!!
Ill use it eventually i guess...
ADI never returned my email either...
Expect at least two weeks to get a reply. Two or three experts will look at it first. They are very heavy into procedures and very conservative, due to what they make.
Stix wrote:Im a trailboss user & am very confident with it.
But i also have 4kg of ASI AS50N laying around for the shotties that doesnt get used much these days...
Im wondering if anyone has any experience with loading centrefire cartridges with this powder (AS50N), for reduced loads...?
And if so, is following standard protocol (say starting loads with 70% case volume & work up) a relatively safe thing to do...?
I havnt looked into it yet, so not sure of bulk density etc, but naturally thought id start with the countries best brains trust...
Curious to hear peoples experiences if any...
Cheers
Lyman #225438 44gr (#2 Alloy) 2.185' OAL BC: .094 SD: .125
| Powder | Sugg | Velocity | Pressure | Max | Velocity | Pressure |
| | Starting | fps | C.U.P | Load | fps | C.U.P. |
| | Grains | | | Grains | | |
|-----------+----------+----------+----------+--------+----------+----------|
| 700X | 7.0 | 2020 | 20300 | 10.0 | 2502 | 35700 |
| Green Dot | 7.0 | 1920 | 16700 | 10.5 | 2468 | 35100 |
Lyman #225415 55gr (#2 Alloy) 2.325' OAL BC .116 SD: .157
| Powder | Sugg | Velocity | Pressure | Max | Velocity | Pressure |
| | Starting | fps | C.U.P | Load | fps | C.U.P. |
| | Grains | | | Grains | | |
|-----------+----------+----------+----------+--------+----------+----------|
| 700X | 7.0 | 1850 | 18000 | 9.0 | 2268 | 33500 |
| Green Dot | 7.5 | 1992 | 21000 | 10.0 | 2356 | 34500 |
Saeco (Redding) #221 60 gr. (#2 Alloy) OAL 2.285' BC: .126 SD: .171
| Powder | Sugg | Velocity | Pressure | Max | Velocity | Pressure |
| | Starting | fps | C.U.P | Load | fps | C.U.P. |
| | Grains | | | Grains | | |
|-----------+----------+----------+----------+--------+----------+----------|
| 700X | 7.0 | 1743 | 21000 | 11.0 | 2351 | 41100 |
| Green Dot | 7.5 | 1743 | 19300 | 11.5 | 2340 | 40800 |
Lyman #225646 55gr (#2 Alloy) 2.350' OAL BC .155 SD: .157
| Powder | Sugg | Velocity | Pressure | Max | Velocity | Pressure |
| | Starting | fps | C.U.P | Load | fps | C.U.P. |
| | Grains | | | Grains | | |
|-----------+----------+----------+----------+--------+----------+----------|
| 700X | 8.0 | 1887 | 24500 | 11.0 | 2286 | 40200 |
| Green Dot | 8.2 | 1862 | 23200 | 11.5 | 2292 | 39700 |