Well im going to reply for me...
Hey Aliqua...good on you for taking the time to reply to everyone...
I wasnt, as i stated, trying to argumentative, & i wasnt offended either by the way.
I just didnt understand the fit n proper bit.
When i opened the page this morning i felt a bit bad that you had such a volley of questioning responses & wondered if you'd come back & reply as i was genuinely interested to hear your experiences...
...but as i said above good on you...& i appreciate your effort put into that.
Obviously a wording thing--nothing wrong with that...i rekon its hard to convey yourself in text, & its easy for what you mean to be lost in quick typing, & anyones interpretation &/or translation...
I still dont think stopping new gun sales is an appropriate thing to do...from an oppression point--if the checks are in place, they are in place & should be adhered to...
I just see it as, if they can pull the stunt & stop firearms being aqquired now, theyt can do it any time...& i get a bad feeling about all this, from an oppression point of view in the futuer...i really cant help thinking that the Govt will be learning A GREAT DEAL about our society as a whole now, moreso than they do with ANY election...& them learning how to use tactics against us from fear, is how they took our guns in the first place...id hate for that to get worse & think we need to be very careful..
For what its worth, Im interested to see this part of the subject discussed further...mostly because it ISNT discussed on an intimate or specific level, & think we firearms owners would unite at a far greater rate if we did all get a grounding on peoples deeper perceptions & beliefs...
I respect your experiences from a law enforcers point of view...im sure you/those guys see a lot of mind numbing rubbish every day--hell i know that & have been on the receiving end of coppers attitudes where i go to register my new guns, as there is a court nearby, so you would well know the sorts that i line up at the counter with...& when a copper is in a bad mood & at hour 8 of a 12 hr shift, & sees me standing there with gun, in a line up with junkies, parole check-ins, once pretty girl in torn clothing bare feet & meth sores all over their face wanting to press charges on her equally wasted partner because he threatened to kick the cats litter tray over the fence, im sure some of them have seen me as a punching bag knowing ill take it, because i cant very well confront them with their own abhorrent attitude, & want to get out of there, & they know it..!
Also as for coppers, there are also a few of them who arent on the side of what id call "better humans"...im a tradesman & have worked with & for every level of SAPOL, & even been involved on a Fed Police drug runner stakeout (nearly took out a Fed cop one night--he forgot to tell me he was on stake-out & i thought he was a baddie--he nearly went down hard--
we laughed about it afterwards...
phew')...
I once even had a copper pull the stand-over tactics with me & not pay for work & materials rightfully owed--using the intimidation & subtle threats of his powers in aluding to "you know what i could do to you..?..."...that guy was the true apitomy of why the coppers have the nik name "pigs"--im just thankful they are few & far between...!!
So these people you speak of not coming under the banner of "fit & proper" do also run into the law enforcers as well...& im not suggesting youd be one of them by the way...just that someone who speeds in a car, is
not necessarily the worst person who could own a gun in our society, & thus i dont think this or similar examples should be in blanket use for discerning who is & who isnt to well trusetd with firearms ownership.
I say this, because while yes sometimes there are idiots who aquire guns, the responsibility that is bestowed on firearms ownership can be something to accelerate anyones given sense of responsibility & maturation in our society...
For example, Im sure there may be one or 2 of us here that would have thrown a punch over our time if it werent for our firearms licences...
Anyway...i didnt take offence to your comments, & glad you answered...& i should also apologise if i was seemingly abrupt--i hadnt the intention of being so, but no doubt i conveyed a little emotion in my post..
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Having slightly differing beliefs in exceptions & boundaries of the various shutdowns is not something worth expending energy on to potentially get off side with, especially when we appear to be on the same page at the end of the day...
All good stuff i rekon...
...its a volatile subject for us, & coming out of it together is a strong sign of unity for us all...
The man who knows everything, doesnt really know everything...he's just stopped learning...