TassieTiger wrote:So it’s promising then...
bladeracer wrote:Stix wrote:Dazed and Confused wrote:TassieTiger wrote:I’m a bit dazed and confused - your impressed with the accuracy but plan on seeing how accurate it really is ?
Plinking while standing, playing around shooting 5cm metal swing targets, shooting oranges and just having fun is totally different to bench shooting with a support bag onto paper targets.
But in Tassie's defence (& anyone else that read the post & had the same conclusion) you've already stated it has great accuracy...
So its fair to assume youve tested it--because youve said you have...
Here...Dazed and Confused wrote:I picked up one of these recently. In fact it is the reason I joined this forum after reading this thread. (Hence the bumping of such an old thread)
I have only put 500 odd CCI standard rounds through it as well as a box of Federal Champion. Every round fired. I was also extremely impressed with the accuracy as I was only after a plinker and not something that would shot at comp level. I have planned to spend time tomorrow afternoon to see just how accurate it is over 25m and 50m. I might run it out at 100m if the desire for beer does not kick in. Ill post results.
He said he put 500rds through it and was impressed with the accuracy, he did not say it was Olympic grade, or that he had done any accuracy testing at all.
TassieTiger wrote:Didn’t he say, I’m impressed with the accuracy, I only wanted a plinker, not a competition shooter ? Implying - it is a Comp shooter...accuracy might be subjective but the statement, “I’m extremely impressed with its accuracy” - (the word, extremely adds weight), as Stix has said, infers that it had been tested...off hand does not account for any testing outcome of the rifle when the shooter is waving around like a flag in a breeze.
It’s not like saying - I’m impressed with how the rifle is shooting off hand or messing around and I’m going to test it thoroughly to see how accurate it is...if someone was in the market for one of these, read the posted statement re accuracy and inferred Comp ability and thought - well, they are Comp accurate according to xxx - do you think, a reasonable person would be thinking the rifle itself is accurate or xxx is a darn fine shot?
It’s a silly argument regardless. The way I read it, didn’t make sense. No biggie.
bladeracer wrote:TassieTiger wrote:Didn’t he say, I’m impressed with the accuracy, I only wanted a plinker, not a competition shooter ? Implying - it is a Comp shooter...accuracy might be subjective but the statement, “I’m extremely impressed with its accuracy” - (the word, extremely adds weight), as Stix has said, infers that it had been tested...off hand does not account for any testing outcome of the rifle when the shooter is waving around like a flag in a breeze.
It’s not like saying - I’m impressed with how the rifle is shooting off hand or messing around and I’m going to test it thoroughly to see how accurate it is...if someone was in the market for one of these, read the posted statement re accuracy and inferred Comp ability and thought - well, they are Comp accurate according to xxx - do you think, a reasonable person would be thinking the rifle itself is accurate or xxx is a darn fine shot?
It’s a silly argument regardless. The way I read it, didn’t make sense. No biggie.
To me it looked you guys were simply being pedantic to belittle a new shooter's impression of his rifle. I couldn't see any genuine interest in your comments.
bladeracer wrote:TassieTiger wrote:So it’s promising then...
No, it's impressively accurate as he said. It may not be impressive to you or anybody else, but he never claimed that.
bladeracer wrote:I don't think he said anything about competition-winning accuracy.
Stix wrote:Its been highlightd in almost every post that he said"shot at comp level" --infact this is the point, so i dont know why you argue about something you dismiss...unless you are going to be pedantic yourself, because youve added in the word "winning"...
& im certainly not belittling a new shooter, & dont like that youve just dismissd all my explanations as such...
Tassie's question was reasonable...as was my passively pointing out why Tassie asked for clarification...all you've done is dismissed & refused to acknowledge all reasonable & passive explanations...& labelled them as intended belittling of a new shooter...
Thats unnecessary...& Again...i dont like that...!
TassieTiger wrote:Sorry blade - I’ll be sure to ask you if it’s okay to query a comment, before I ask the question ? Will that suit you better?
Your saying our posts didn’t contribute to the thread - but somehow, your opinion did?
Okay...then.
bladeracer wrote:Stix wrote:Its been highlightd in almost every post that he said"shot at comp level" --infact this is the point, so i dont know why you argue about something you dismiss...unless you are going to be pedantic yourself, because youve added in the word "winning"...
& im certainly not belittling a new shooter, & dont like that youve just dismissd all my explanations as such...
Tassie's question was reasonable...as was my passively pointing out why Tassie asked for clarification...all you've done is dismissed & refused to acknowledge all reasonable & passive explanations...& labelled them as intended belittling of a new shooter...
Thats unnecessary...& Again...i dont like that...!
I added the word winning because without it your own comment was pointless, you can enter competitions without managing to put any bullets on the paper. You are the one equating "shot at comp level" with some level of outstanding accuracy. Without that assumption on your part your comment makes no sense. I have been impressed with a milsurp managing to hold 3MoA, and that would also be competition-level accuracy - it depends on the competition you're shooting.
As I said, Tassie's view of being confused by what the poster stated was his own interpretation, not what the poster said. He even explained exactly what sort of shooting he'd done that had left him impressed with the rifle's accuracy so there's no confusion there. The fact is that neither Tassie's comment, or yours in support of Tassie's added anything whatever to the thread...
Where did I dismiss any explanations? And where have I refused to acknowledge any explanations, reasonable or otherwise?
You're allowed to not like things, nothing wrong with that
bladeracer wrote:TassieTiger wrote:Sorry blade - I’ll be sure to ask you if it’s okay to query a comment, before I ask the question ? Will that suit you better?
Your saying our posts didn’t contribute to the thread - but somehow, your opinion did?
Okay...then.
You should only have to ask yourself if what you are posting is worth the effort, many times it is not, in which case don't post it....
TassieTiger wrote:bladeracer wrote:TassieTiger wrote:Sorry blade - I’ll be sure to ask you if it’s okay to query a comment, before I ask the question ? Will that suit you better?
Your saying our posts didn’t contribute to the thread - but somehow, your opinion did?
Okay...then.
You should only have to ask yourself if what you are posting is worth the effort, many times it is not, in which case don't post it....
So now your saying a lot of what I post up, isn’t worth the effort ? Who made you king and queen of an open internet forum ?
My original reply had SFA to do with you and was directed at OP, not you at all - perhaps it was one of those times where it was not worth hitting submit button on your behalf...?
If nothing else it was written to highlight how one might misconstrue the intent of the ops wording - but now your on some rant about your self importance. Your right about one thing - new shooters do deserve better.
Dazed and Confused wrote:I picked up one of these recently. In fact it is the reason I joined this forum after reading this thread. (Hence the bumping of such an old thread)
I have only put 500 odd CCI standard rounds through it as well as a box of Federal Champion. Every round fired. I was also extremely impressed with the accuracy as I was only after a plinker and not something that would shot at comp level. I have planned to spend time tomorrow afternoon to see just how accurate it is over 25m and 50m. I might run it out at 100m if the desire for beer does not kick in. Ill post results.
Dazed and Confused wrote:I was also extremely impressed with the accuracy as I was only after a plinker and not something that would shot at comp level.
Stix wrote:You left the part out where he states, suggests, or inferrs it is of competition accuracy...
bladeracer wrote:I would try a bunch of different ammo to determine what it prefers.
Is the "breech" actually aluminium as stated in that RimfireCentral thread? The breech is actually the chamber, which is part of the barrel so I'm guessing the guy was referring to the bolt.
Dazed and Confused wrote:Dazed and Confused wrote:I was also extremely impressed with the accuracy as I was only after a plinker and not something that would shot at comp level.Stix wrote:You left the part out where he states, suggests, or inferrs it is of competition accuracy...
Firstly, I am not sure why anyone would completely reverse what I typed. How anyone could take my comment and turn it upside down baffles me. How all the responses that followed are also actually quite amazing. Secondly, why was everyone calling me the OP. This thread was started in 2018, I just necro'd it as I recently purchased this particular rifle as a replacement for two old/aging 22lr's and wanted to offer an opinion. Lastly, think what anyone is going to think when they read this thread if they look at purchasing this particular rifle.
Over the next few months, when I get a chance, I will post up some further details about it as I only saw a few posts on the entire Internet on the rifle and thought it would be good to share what I thought was positive about it on a forum that had some information.
Mr Dazed and it rained today.
Dazed and Confused wrote:Dazed and Confused wrote:I was also extremely impressed with the accuracy as I was only after a plinker and not something that would shot at comp level.Stix wrote:You left the part out where he states, suggests, or inferrs it is of competition accuracy...
Firstly, I am not sure why anyone would completely reverse what I typed. How anyone could take my comment and turn it upside down baffles me. How all the responses that followed are also actually quite amazing. Secondly, why was everyone calling me the OP. This thread was started in 2018, I just necro'd it as I recently purchased this particular rifle as a replacement for two old/aging 22lr's and wanted to offer an opinion. Lastly, think what anyone is going to think when they read this thread if they look at purchasing this particular rifle.
Over the next few months, when I get a chance, I will post up some further details about it as I only saw a few posts on the entire Internet on the rifle and thought it would be good to share what I thought was positive about it on a forum that had some information.
Mr Dazed and it rained today.
bladeracer wrote:To me it looked you guys were simply being pedantic to belittle a new shooter's impression of his rifle. I couldn't see any genuine interest in your comments.
bladeracer wrote:Those are looking outstanding!
What ammo are you using?