Grandadbushy wrote:I some what agree with you TT on the Dan gov but he doesn't draw all the blame for this, in my opinion ,it's business like owners of the Aged Homes who held back the truth of what was going on behind closed doors, the ships captain withholding the facts aboard the ship, gov all based around money, then morons like the three girls of late telling BS about their movements and crossing borders and all those that buck the system put in place to fight this pandemic by throwing parties, dining out and many others doing what is not needed, i can't believe or understand the lunacy of these people. Also i agree with the gov being overwhelmed with the situation ,i really think it is out of hand they won't stop it now and the covid will run its course before slowly fading out and many more lives will be lost before this is over And then how long before we get side swiped by another pandemic, possibly worse than this one, think about that do we turn the other cheek to those like the girls and the greedy or does our governments grow a set of balls and punish these people, i know people have to earn an income i have 6 kids doing battle with no income at times but you have to ask yourself is the death of you or your loved ones and others going to help or be better in the long run or is isolating and doing it tough for awhile for a possible better outcome for all concerned be a better way to go, i know which way i'd go
JimmyS wrote:How long can this go on for? Falling into trillions of dollars worth of debt.
Just something to ponder.
Noisydad wrote:Our so called “leadership” isn’t leading. It’s reacting and that’s about all they ever do.
mchughcb wrote:This is a large cluster fark. Protect the elderly and immune compromised people and let the rest get back to work and life.
Tom Hanks - Survived
Mel Gibson - Survived
Peter Dutton - Survived
Boris Johnson - Survived
Prince Charles - Survived
Prince Albert - Survived
Jair Bolsonaro - Survived
FFS they aren't spring chickens either.
Bill wrote:Chuck its been pretty obviously that more people have ignored the science and not enough was done by the feds and the private sector.
You either follow the best advice on offer or suffer the consequences. Not interested in your virtual whatever, I like reality.
Oldbloke wrote:All those having a winge about sitting at home. If you get your way I hope your parents survive.
If not you really will have something to cry about.
mchughcb wrote:Oldbloke wrote:All those having a winge about sitting at home. If you get your way I hope your parents survive.
If not you really will have something to cry about.
Thanks mate. My mother in law died of cancer during the lockdown and we have missed the funeral due to the travel ban. My wife can't visit the priest at the church because its shutdown. My uncle has terminal lung cancer. I can't visit him and he can't leave the house.
If you are scared great, look after yourself and stop lecturing everyone else.
JimmyS wrote:How long can this go on for? Falling into trillions of dollars worth of debt.
In theory, just 1 person with the virus can start this whole thing off again, then what, this lockdown again? for another 6 months? I bet some people would question if life was even worth living, essentially being a prisoner within your own home.
I'd like to see the number of suicides after all this, not to mention the 250,000 + jobs lost in Victoria alone, that's 250,000 more people with no income, relying on the people/government to keep them alive, and to not die.
Then you hear the dumb people "OMG SO YOU THINK ITS OKAY TO LET PEOPLE DIE?" such a dumb, basic, emotional argument.
M8, no more than 2 - 3 people have died in the whole of Victoria that are under 60 or so, and for each person that has died in Victoria, a conservative figure of 1300,00 people have lost their jobs.
The only reason we can allow this lock-down to occur, is because we have welfare. If there was no welfare, hundreds of thousands, if not millions would die, because there would be mass starvation, because no one would have any money.
Hope the reserve bank doesn't ask for it's loans back ey?
Just something to ponder.
wanneroo wrote:I've followed the whole Victoria debacle and the more they shut down the more the cases go up.
I do not believe the lockdowns and restrictions on healthy people stop the virus at all, it just forces healthy people into close confines with sick people and the cases shoot up.
Here's some data in regards to the lockdown scam:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/big ... -lockdowns
I had the conversation today with an aunt who has hid out from the beginning and not gone anywhere. I said at some point you have to resume your life, how long do you intend to hide out for? Remember the beginning when they told the lie of two weeks? Then it was a month and then more and then more restrictions.
I said there are a few facts people cannot escape from:
1. The virus is never going away, ever. It's already mutated into hundreds of strains and will join the roster of other coronaviruses we deal with every year. Perhaps in time it will weaken and be more like a cold virus.
2. Already the wizards of smart are telling us the vaccine may only be 50-70% effective, so it's not going to be a complete fix.
3. If you continue to hide out at home, home is a dangerous place. In the USA, 25,000 people a year die from falling down the stairs or off a ladder. 400 die from bathtubs, 100 die from appliances. Staying at home means you are probably stuffing your face with a lot of junk food so then you'll just expire of a heart attack, diabetes or other obesity causes. Then you have to factor in depression and lack of socialization and the effects from that.
Bill wrote:marksman do you not get the bit that family members are more likely to physically contact one another.
In NSW we've had outbreaks related to funerals where you guess it ****** are hugging and kissing and ignoring all social distancing.
Vic Liberals asking for Federal intervention is laughable and a dangerous direction to head in.
Oldbloke wrote:All those having a winge about sitting at home. If you get your way I hope your parents survive.
If not you really will have something to cry about.
JimmyS wrote:Bill wrote:Chuck its been pretty obviously that more people have ignored the science and not enough was done by the feds and the private sector.
You either follow the best advice on offer or suffer the consequences. Not interested in your virtual whatever, I like reality.
This is another thing that I have never quite understood - why is is the private sectors job to look after us? They are a business. Turnover declines, they make no money, they close down, everyone is out a job.
Hell, most modern business' operate on a very tight margin, hence why so many companies have failed, and just fallen over.
Reality doesn't make it right.
People bend over so easy in this country - pardon the vulgarity.