womble wrote:Jobs can be replaced. The economy can be re-grown. People can’t be.
These are untimely deaths, not through natural causes.
Because it’s not a virus created by nature and it dose’nt behave like one. Perhaps it never will. We are not seeing weaker strains to keep the host alive in order to ensure it’s own survival. We should have by now, like any other naturally occurring virus.
This virus survives and thrives because it’s enhanced. This thing was coded. It was engineered to kill at the cost of it’s own life.
Nothing in the natural world does that. It goes against the laws of nature. It’s not going to evolve into weaker strains.
It will have mutated a thousand times by now and yet still it can’t go against it’s genetic coding.
Like everything else China dose’nt care about patents, global policies on crisper, gene editing, moral obligations. They’ve had the technology to do this for at least 20 years and China has never abided by any worldwide constraints due to morality dilemmas.
They are light years ahead of the rest of the world now.
We don’t know what we are dealing with and what it will become. We are baffled by it. We need to kill it. The only way we can kill it is to starve it to death.
Bill wrote:Yeah nah boingk, early days but Covid 19 appears to leave some many many sufferers with permanent damage.
Death rate isn't really the issue its the reduced function/reduction of life span that's going to cost us long term. Some studies are suggesting it could potentially take 13yrs off life expectancy
Some patients have permanent lung damage, pancreas, bowel or heart damage. We don't really understand the long term affects but plenty of people are left with ongoing issues we don't really understand. Early days for scientists.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... scientists
Scomo and the liberals chose to do the full lock down, no point chasing herd immunity now after spending the 2nd highest amount of cash per capita after Qatar.
To now do herd immunity after the Liberals have torched $200 Billion is just a daft suggestion
Marksman I read your rant twice and Im still not sure what you were trying to say
mchughcb wrote:Agreed Wanneroo. You don't ask a medical expert with regards to the "best" outcome because it is a trade off of various outcomes.
Politicians and medical professors are too scared to say their estimates of the black plague were completely wrong. In Australia they predicted 7000 people per day to the ICU even with social distancing. With 25 million plus we have about 45 total.
No politician is strong enough to say, look we over reacted. Its not as bad as it seems. We'll make sure the elderly and infirmed are looked after, everybody else look after your hygiene and get back to your work and life.
There is no "exit" strategy from this situation. Every politician is waiting for some other person to "take the first steps" when in reality the fear doesn't match the reality of the last 6 months.
The mainstream media's obsession's with death numbers of elderly people and hysteria to increase lockdown measures is fueling the politician's irrational approach to this epidemic.
womble wrote:Jobs can be replaced. The economy can be re-grown. People can’t be.
These are untimely deaths, not through natural causes.
Because it’s not a virus created by nature and it dose’nt behave like one. Perhaps it never will. We are not seeing weaker strains to keep the host alive in order to ensure it’s own survival. We should have by now, like any other naturally occurring virus.
This virus survives and thrives because it’s enhanced. This thing was coded. It was engineered to kill at the cost of it’s own life.
Nothing in the natural world does that. It goes against the laws of nature. It’s not going to evolve into weaker strains.
It will have mutated a thousand times by now and yet still it can’t go against it’s genetic coding.
Like everything else China dose’nt care about patents, global policies on crisper, gene editing, moral obligations. They’ve had the technology to do this for at least 20 years and China has never abided by any worldwide constraints due to morality dilemmas.
They are light years ahead of the rest of the world now.
We don’t know what we are dealing with and what it will become. We are baffled by it. We need to kill it. The only way we can kill it is to starve it to death.
Ziege wrote:Well I'm stuck between two camps, in many places the deaths from despair have outnumbered deaths from the virus, even in the USA where the numbers are definitely being blown out of proportion, but the virus is an arse ache too and no question costs lives, question is, should we bother stopping it if more people just due of suicide and substance abuse caused by isolation? After all if less would die from the actual virus (as is the case now) than the subsequent mental health issues, what's the point in stopping it???
womble wrote:Looks like they’re not going hard enough, most people still going to work. Supposed to announce restrictions on that today, but labour government so would be huge pressure from unions and business to keep going.
I think they should kill it. A lot of people are pushing for full lockdown. Kill it now or it’s game over. We”ll be slaughtered like the US
Grandadbushy wrote:Wanneroo, '' How long can this go on for''?
Grandadbushy wrote: yes people are suffering in many fields but as i said before we've had wars and recovered ''but never the same'' but recovered, we've had floods, fires, virus's but recovered of sorts in every case so we have to learn from history and not predict what is unknown
Grandadbushy wrote:Yes mchughcb mate it's gonna be tough but it's all we got for now i agree we can't do this forever ,BUT it hasn't helped by people doing the wrong thing, and no we don't have a war but it affects the economy and people similar, most governments end up broke after wars and this could be similar, as far as isolation goes yes i do keep clear from others with virus's or if i've got the flu we live miles from most people so it's not a problem for us and as far as complaining and we aren't under martial law well you have to wonder why they are under martial law is it because they didn't do the right thing in the first place, it's easy to blame the government for most of this but people have to take some of the blame especially those that flaunt the rules. up here we've been lucky so far because our Premier didn't bow to pressure from the other states and open the borders and look at their situation, you are right about this not being able to be kept up and i have no doubt if things don't move to the better, things will change and governments will try and adapt to other ideas but for now lets not condemn everything that has been done because it's been a learning curve for us all and lets hope something gives soon so we all can resume as normal a life as possible
Bill wrote:marksman just put your best foot forward during these difficult times, thats all any of us can do, jokes aside I hope like schit case numbers start falling in Victoria for everyone sake.
Wash your hands, wear a mask when indoors or in close proximity to others and keep on social distancing.