Troyus wrote:Besides duck shooting.
We have an adler but just use it for a bit of fun. Would love to be able to hunt with it but I really have no idea how or what to hunt. I also have it in my mind that its only effective for 25M or so. Educate me please!
on_one_wheel wrote:Pretty much anything you can get within 50 meters of provided your using an appropriate shot or slug.
In my opinion, the 12 gauge shotgun is the most versatile firearm you can get your hands on.
Troyus wrote:Besides duck shooting.
We have an adler but just use it for a bit of fun. Would love to be able to hunt with it but I really have no idea how or what to hunt. I also have it in my mind that its only effective for 25M or so. Educate me please!
duncan61 wrote:A few posters have claimed shotguns are not that good...
bladeracer wrote:duncan61 wrote:A few posters have claimed shotguns are not that good...
I enjoy them, but I generally don't like them for trying to kill live targets with birdshot and smaller buck. Some people are very skilled, and very aware of their limitations, they can effectively kill birds and rabbits very cleanly out to the ranges that they know they can do so. Unfortunately, not having to be very skillful is the very reason so many people opt for a gun over a rifle, if they could shoot well they wouldn't need the gun. Shooting goats at 100yds with buckshot for example, when you have a .222 and a .30-06 just sounds stupid to me, and unfair to the animal. At 100yds the pattern is probably larger than the entire animal, so you are hoping for at least one hit, against the odds, and highly unlikely to do more than cripple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxymVClJVhU
duncan61 wrote:Watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxymVClJVhU.That is not a shotgun it has a bullpup chassis and 18 inch barrel with god knows what choke.A 28 inch barrel with full choke would put every ball on target and I had a 5 shot Browning semiauto to use.I knew I would cop some flack for daring to share but not from you blade.We tested on beer bottles at 100 metres and OO/SG we had a 100m tape.The pattern out the browning was only about 2 foot wide every shot.its important to remember we are winding through scrub country and can see the windmill in the distance so we know we will come on them soon.A good driver knows to chase and then broadside to give the shotgun team a chance to get amonst them as they scatter.It was some thing we would go do after work at 5.00pm and be back at camp with fresh goat at 6.00pm not an all day hunt scene.One Sunday we went out for a field trip and I was curious about patterns and chokes I was brand new but knew the M60 had a beaten zone for suppresive fire where my Bren gun was pinpoint accurate.the pattern of OO/SG was similar to a M60 at 100 metres and I could crank 6 shells down range as fast as my finger moved.Had a lot of fun other tradesmen were begging to come along on our lets get weird times.Went gold mining for the first time at that camp.The boss got me at 2AM and we went digging in the ball mill itself.Found plenty of gold that night.3 ball mills were transported from somewhere else so they still had 2 foot of grinding in them
No1Mk3 wrote:...a rifle is unethical on Upland game and passing duck...
bladeracer wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:...a rifle is unethical on Upland game and passing duck...
I would say non-traditional rather than unethical, a headshot from a rifle will kill a duck cleaner than a load of birdshot throughout its body.
mchughcb wrote:bladeracer wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:...a rifle is unethical on Upland game and passing duck...
I would say non-traditional rather than unethical, a headshot from a rifle will kill a duck cleaner than a load of birdshot throughout its body.
You won't shoot 5 ducks with one shot though.
bladeracer wrote:mchughcb wrote:bladeracer wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:...a rifle is unethical on Upland game and passing duck...
I would say non-traditional rather than unethical, a headshot from a rifle will kill a duck cleaner than a load of birdshot throughout its body.
You won't shoot 5 ducks with one shot though.
I thought targeting multiple birds was definitely unethical.
mchughcb wrote:Well that depends where you are hunting. Just like is it ethical to shoot a duck in the head on the water. Is that legal let alone ethical, let alone safe.
mchughcb wrote:You were talking about a rifle.