bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
So do handguns not keep value very well outside of collectables? or am I reading it wrong?
bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
ThatNewGuy wrote:bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
So do handguns not keep value very well outside of collectables? or am I reading it wrong?
BangWhizzClack wrote:ThatNewGuy wrote:bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
So do handguns not keep value very well outside of collectables? or am I reading it wrong?
So if you bought a handgun at retail price, a dealer will pay you less than that, so that he can make a profit selling it. Depending on the gun you're swapping it for, he may just do the swap, and depending on the value difference may even give you store credit/cash. But typically if you bought a 2k gun, and you were swapping it for a 2k gun, depending on the shop's policies and how much the owner likes you, I'd figure a guess and say he'd probably give you 1600-1700, and then you make up the difference. Retailers never pay retail. That's for chumps like you and I
ThatNewGuy wrote:bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
So do handguns not keep value very well outside of collectables? or am I reading it wrong?
bladeracer wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:ThatNewGuy wrote:bladeracer wrote:
Keep in mind that the price they offer for yours is still going to leave a fair gap to pay for the one you're buying.
So do handguns not keep value very well outside of collectables? or am I reading it wrong?
So if you bought a handgun at retail price, a dealer will pay you less than that, so that he can make a profit selling it. Depending on the gun you're swapping it for, he may just do the swap, and depending on the value difference may even give you store credit/cash. But typically if you bought a 2k gun, and you were swapping it for a 2k gun, depending on the shop's policies and how much the owner likes you, I'd figure a guess and say he'd probably give you 1600-1700, and then you make up the difference. Retailers never pay retail. That's for chumps like you and I
Can a dealer really offer that much and still mark it up enough to be worth the paperwork?
BangWhizzClack wrote:I was going to go into that if it's status goes from New-unfired to Used then it will lose value, I am not exactly sure how much they'd they'd pay as I'm not great with valuations, it's up to the store owner and how much he likes you really. I was just guessing. But it was just an example of if you bought it and then took it back unused the sort of principle of it and reasoning. I should have explained further, my mistake.
bladeracer wrote:I concur, the CZ75/85 and clones is a brilliant design, particularly if you like the classic military pistols, I have no doubt their newer models carry that on.
One thing our new laws do is open up the viability of the smaller grip of a single-stack semi-auto, like the 9mm or .38 Super 1911, S&W M39, Sig P210 or Wather P38/P1 - I think you mentioned a bit of a classic preference. I have large hands and can handle a 17+1 pistol just fine, but for smaller hands they are pretty bulky, and pointless when you are stuck with 10rd mags. If you can find one, have a feel of the early Sig P210 - that is one amazing design that goes back over seventy years. I don't know if it'd be viable to run an old one as a regular IPSC pistol though, I think they are quite collectible now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YXgBXvBSlk
https://buyusedguns.com.au/listings/sig-pistol-with-holster-model-p210/
I have never held an M39 but it's a pistol that caught my eye when I was very young and I have lusted after one for 45 years
I don't find the Beretta 92 comfortable, but my hand is quite messed up and it may be due to that rather than the design itself.
Macross wrote:Expect to loose 50% of a guns original purchase price if you want to trade it at a dealer. I can vouch for this as recently purchase a new pistol for my wife brand new. She isnt happy with it and I ran the idea of a like for like trade in at the shop where we purchased it. Im quite friendly with one of the staff there and he said straight up he would be flat out offering me half what we paid and couldn't in good conscience suggest it as an option. Can depend on the handgun but factor in half price and you'll be in the ball park of what they will offer you.
I think like for like would be much better if you had an older gun in need of repair or you perhaps picked up super cheap second hand, then it could be an option to switch it up and not have to get a new PTA.... but swapping out new guns for the sake of trying something different is gonna be an expensive exercise.
ThatNewGuy wrote:Macross wrote:Expect to loose 50% of a guns original purchase price if you want to trade it at a dealer. I can vouch for this as recently purchase a new pistol for my wife brand new. She isnt happy with it and I ran the idea of a like for like trade in at the shop where we purchased it. Im quite friendly with one of the staff there and he said straight up he would be flat out offering me half what we paid and couldn't in good conscience suggest it as an option. Can depend on the handgun but factor in half price and you'll be in the ball park of what they will offer you.
I think like for like would be much better if you had an older gun in need of repair or you perhaps picked up super cheap second hand, then it could be an option to switch it up and not have to get a new PTA.... but swapping out new guns for the sake of trying something different is gonna be an expensive exercise.
So would buying something older with plenty of parts be a viable option or would I actually need proper gunsmithing skills for that to be a viable option?
ThatNewGuy wrote:I did a quick search of all of the handguns that you have mentioned I found a CZ75/B?? and according to the description, it's a collectors-only handgun? The P38/P1 I recognize and the only difference that I can see between the two is the year of manufacture. The Sig P210 I would have to sell a kidney for... despite thier clean lines I kinda need both of those for whisk(e)y on one liver would be painful
I've held a replica beretta 92fs and they feel nice but something kept bothering me and I couldn't figure out what it was,
The M39 I thought you were calling out the mosin variant for a minute before my brain kicked into gear and as far as I can tell they look like shortend 1911s?
ThatNewGuy wrote:Good afternoon guys and gals,
I am going to be doing my safety course for a cat H license soon and was wondering what you fine people suggest for a beginner (and history buff) once my 6 months provisionary wait is up. I was tempted for a luger before I saw the recent post on those, I'm now thinking of a G2 or even a G1 contender due to its multi-caliber potential.
I'm in QLD if that makes suggestions easier.
Thank you for your suggestions,
That (reasonably)NewGuy
BangWhizzClack wrote:Oh, and
I've heard many people tell how they bought a glock as a first handgun, because... it's a glock.. they always regret it. I don't know why, they never say, they just shake their heads and suggest you don't do the same.
Diamond Jim wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:. I also own a nice revolver that is smooth as cat poo but the Glock is the one that gets to the range 95% of the time.
Zappa wrote:Diamond Jim wrote:BangWhizzClack wrote:. I also own a nice revolver that is smooth as cat poo but the Glock is the one that gets to the range 95% of the time.
Im in the market for a revolver. Which one do you have ?
rc42 wrote:
For Australia, as a target pistol they would suck without modification of sights and trigger and they lack the weight to help manage recoil,
Diamond Jim wrote:Glock 34 is aimed at IPSC type competition. In my experience it does the job very well.