IlovemyLE wrote:I've slugged the bore repeatedly and keep getting the same results - 224 on the grooves and .219-220 on the lands. The bore does look beautiful, but this seems rather nice. The rifle was handed in from a grand dad's estate and I picked it up for a song. CBE is shut down for a while for personal reasons and is not taking orders. I made some brass from .22 Hornet cases and stripped projectiles from .22 LR, but the bullet seating die from my CH4D set did some funny things to them. I thank you for your offer but I think I'm going to have to sort out a bullet die for this little poppet as it has a funny heel on the bullet, and there doesn't seem to be much leeway in the COL either. But thanks for the offer.
IlovemyLE wrote:I'm trying LR bullets, but I don't see how I can crimp to a heeled bullet with what I have here. I tried the seating die just to get the pill in further, that's where I ran into the deformation of the pills.
IlovemyLE wrote:The case mouth measures up at 0.200", which allows the heel on the LR pill to engage, but the heel needs to be markedly to achieve a usable COL. I have a drawing of the bullets for this round somewhere on my old computer. I'm trying to find it whilst entertaining grandchildren.
IlovemyLE wrote:It's a long. I've an old drawing of the cartridge and the bullet and the bullet is definitely heeled, but I can't find the drawing - it's lurking there in cyberspace. When I find it I'll flick it across to you. CBE catalogue for that round also shows a definite heel.
IlovemyLE wrote:My case length is 0.80", the COL I need is 1.1". Much longer than that the LR pills start to engage on the rifling. I'm in Bacchus Marsh, After years of moving around, here I am and my next shift will probably be in a box, LOL. No1Mk3, I sure your drawing antedates mine, I'll know for sure when I locate it. Thanks for that info. I can't turn bullets at the moment, but the way things are heading I think I'll be buying a lathe shortly even if just to do this sort of stuff but also it'll allow me to make up other bits and pieces. Serving a four year apprenticeship and then working at my trade for forty years has to be good for something!
smlekid wrote:Hi I've been playing with loads for my 297/230 francotte for a while now I have the CBE mould but have found a NOE mould that shoots a lot better in my rifle https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/22 ... cavity-gc/
3grs of Unique I think will be way to hot fwiw 1.5grs of Unique with the CBE Boolit gets 1150fps over my Chrony I am currently loading 1.5grs of Winchester WSF with the 37Gr (in my alloy) NOE Boolit this gets me around 1140fps
here is a picture of my rifle at 25m
IlovemyLE wrote:Yes, I've been convinced that the Unique load is way too high. It was a figure from British Militaria Site and I've been given enough reasons to discard that load.
IlovemyLE wrote:I'm trying LR bullets, but I don't see how I can crimp to a heeled bullet with what I have here. I tried the seating die just to get the pill in further, that's where I ran into the deformation of the pills.
No1Mk3 wrote:G'day IlovemyLE,
The original Morris bullet was not heeled as you can see from this 1904 drawing. The use of heeled bullets today comes from the making of brass from 22 Hornet cases, by the time you shorten the case and form it the neck is quite thick and it becomes problematic to use normal bullets without reaming the cases so the mould from CBE casts a heeled bullet. I have also had some success pulling bullets from old 22 RF both lead and jacketed HP, Cheers