Oldbloke wrote:Use the sako you have. Rifles are made to kill animals. Not become safe queens.
Sheesh
Larry wrote:I have a sako 85 in a 243 to be honest at first sight I was a little disappointed. I was expecting a nicer piece of wood. It shoots and handles great so in the end I am more than pleased with it.
So bigrich before you buy I think it is important to really have a good think about what you want in the gun as for the price of them there are lot of other options as you have already pointed out. Off the shelf is great if you want no fuss however if you are prepared to do a bit of work and buy individual parts a really excellent gun can be made that would surpass the Sako in every way. It can take some time though I have just waited a year on getting a new barrel Covid contributed to that though normal time is 3 to six month. Stocks can be purchased unfinished in really high grade wood and they are not that hard to finish up to a very nice finish and there are better custom actions available.
Oldbloke wrote:"i've got resonable finances to play with all this stuff , so why not "
Ahsoo, your a millionaire?
Just joking
I understand the collecting thing. The old or unusual, etc. But don't really see the point of buying what is a nice modern day hunting rifle and make it a safe queen because it might get scratched. But if that's your thing, good luck. I don't have that luxury or the $ to do that. All mine get used, not enough but get used.
bigrich wrote:Oldbloke wrote:"i've got resonable finances to play with all this stuff , so why not "
Ahsoo, your a millionaire?
Just joking
I understand the collecting thing. The old or unusual, etc. But don't really see the point of buying what is a nice modern day hunting rifle and make it a safe queen because it might get scratched. But if that's your thing, good luck. I don't have that luxury or the $ to do that. All mine get used, not enough but get used.
no millionaire mate , just worked hard when i was young and lived modestly . now i'm older and debt free i can spend a little on what i couldn't afford when i was young .
the whole point of buying the new stainless laminate is to use it . in all weather . it's not gunna be a safe queen OB . that way i can leave the old and unusual at home where it's warm and dry and safe .....
Larry wrote:I really dont like most of the laminate stocks that are sold. The ones that have a black layer in them. I found out when I was bedding one that the black layer is a charred burnt wood. If I had to go a laminate it would be a normal industrial grade laminate. There are a few people that make stocks out of that material but most of the comercial ones use the dyed and burnt type. There is no strength in the burnt layer which defeat the whole purpose of using a laminate.
Wm.Traynor wrote:How about a stainless/ synthetic? When I used to get home from a hunt and if the stock was at all dirty, I would take it off and wash it.
p.s. those Territory swamps can be a bit sticky.....................if you slip
Blr243 wrote:If I were just going to look at a rifle it would be walnut and blued But because all mine are just tools that are going to get marked and I’m slack , I go for stainless and synthetic, or stainless and Laminate . If a natural timber stock had plenty of clearance around the barrell and would never touch it I would b fine with a timber stock that swelled and warped a bit .......New Zealand your rifle is constantly wet
Larry wrote:I really dont like most of the laminate stocks that are sold. The ones that have a black layer in them. I found out when I was bedding one that the black layer is a charred burnt wood. If I had to go a laminate it would be a normal industrial grade laminate. There are a few people that make stocks out of that material but most of the comercial ones use the dyed and burnt type. There is no strength in the burnt layer which defeat the whole purpose of using a laminate.
bigrich wrote:Has anyone heard of issues with laminate stocks though ?
Larry wrote:Yes that darker layer is charred and just falls apart really easily when scratched with any tool. The other layers which are normally dyed are what i would call full strength wood.
bigrich wrote:Thanks for the link OB . I didn’t realise GDB had been deleted. That explains why I haven’t heard from him in a while. From the thread the only reference I found to the laminate is that some of the clear coat lifted on on his stocks . Bad batch maybe ?
Larry wrote:Yes that darker layer is charred and just falls apart really easily when scratched with any tool. The other layers which are normally dyed are what i would call full strength wood.
Larry wrote:I found it to be charred from personal experience. I was making modifications to a boyeds stock. I had to expand the magwell to take a new bottom metal to take an AICS mag. I was using a few different tools like a dremel and then chisels it was very obvious that the wood was burnt that layer fell apart very easily. I stand by my remarks and observations first hand experience.