SwissMiss wrote:Also read between the lines, this is another step further towards the governments ultimate goal of disarming of civilians.
Ask yourself, do you honestly think governments like that civilians have access to the tools, resources and knowledge to produce their own ammunition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw
Blr243 wrote:For sale. One tin of bullseye $ 3750.00 ..Just laying around and one tin of unique$ 5400.oo it’s more expensive because I prefer to keep it for my 4570. Prices are firm ......not interested in selling my trailboss
CAVEMAN wrote:Now this is just water cooler gossip.
As far as I know ADI doesn't make any pistol ammo. And to my knowledge most if not all used for Government departments is shipped in. Honestly pistol ammo is a very small market compared to rifle type calibre's.
Id say its just not something its worth the company producing if there having troubles with it. There rifle powders are in huge demand and they may as well shift to that and pursue it.
rc42 wrote:It would be interesting to know who uses ADI pistol powders other than civilian reloaders, I would expect security and police to meet their needs using factory ammo from dealers, none of which use ADI powder as far as I know. This was actually mentioned as an issue when the dealers were all shut down due to Covid and nobody could buy ammo.
It is likely that the Australian armed forces manufacture their own pistol ammo, I've heard that the US army do so they may be the big purchaser of pistol powders. They will also have an expiry date after which old ammo needs to be replaced which will keep the production lines running.
ADI claim that they manufacture pistol powders only for the Australian government and domestic reloaders, they also say that they only export rifle powders to a single customer (Hogdgon?) and only after domestic needs have been met. I have no reason to believe this to be untrue so will accept it unless there is evidence to the contrary, the mumblings around the water cooler from under somebody's tin foil hat certainly do not count as evidence.
Switching over their plant to rifle powder production probably would be more profitable but again, without evidence to the contrary, their statement that they are unable to get a stable burn rate for faster powders due to temperature and humidity has to be believed.
rc42 wrote:I have a couple of bottles of APS350 pistol/shotgun powder, they have "Made in Australia" printed clearly on them, if this were imported and re-branded it would be illegal for ADI to state that.
You're right now though, there is currently no pistol powder being made in Australia and won't be for the "foreseeable future"
Blr243 wrote:Does this mean that Alliant are the only people offering pistol powders in aistralalia ? If so , surely market forces, supply and demand, somebody else will kick in. Surely it’s economicallly suitable for another party ?