SCJ429 wrote:Veetwin wrote:Getting back in, waiting for a 308 pta
What sort of Vee Twin? European, Japanese or American?
Ducati monster. I also have 3 cars you may be familiar with.
SCJ429 wrote:Veetwin wrote:Getting back in, waiting for a 308 pta
What sort of Vee Twin? European, Japanese or American?
Blr243 wrote:My 1895 is at home and not going anywhere anytime .....if ever I were to think about selling it I know I must rush to the hospital for tests because I must be developing a brain tumour
cz515 wrote:Interesting thread. Everytime a new shooters asks me what I recommend as their first rifle. I tell them get a 300wm in a hunting lightweight barrel followed by a 308. Can use similar projectiles, powder etc.
I even tell them they need to get it in a tikka super varmint, and I'll guarantee they will like it or I'll buy their rifle from them
cz515 wrote:Yeah they don't hear the super varmint part ...haha
FNQ wrote:.308 reminds me of a LandCruiser.
It just works
in2anity wrote:FNQ wrote:.308 reminds me of a LandCruiser.
It just works
When comparing the 308 with the likes of the 6.5cm, it's more important to obtain a very accurate rifle (and associated load and gear) before going too deeply down such a rabbit hole of an argument. Which makes the 6.5cm vs 308 "sporter rifle" debate somewhat of a moot point.
Like-for-like, both will do just fine. In a hunting rifle, both will open up after a few shots.
I can tell you for a fact, with like-for-like gear, the 308 yields the same scores as 6.5 in service matches. It's the mug behind the trigger that's causing the error, not the caliber.
bigrich wrote:on that note, it would be fair to say some shooters would do better with the CM due to being able to shoot more accurately than a lightweight flinch inducing 308
horses for coarses . depends what floats your boat
the 308 is boring because it works
disco stu wrote:I had only shot my 308 prone or sitting in hunting situations and thought it was fine. Shot it recently off the bench for the first time and felt like my brain cells were rearranged. 3 shots was enough for me. Went through near on 20rds sighting it in prone (lose scope mount-rookie error) and thought nothing of it. Crazy how much different it is off the bench
duncan61 wrote:There was only a few of us doing at this club so we had the same target as the fullbore guys using military stuff with a sling and open sights.Now I live back in the city a range I go to has the different targets as it is about 50/50 and has different classes.
duncan61 wrote:I have seen people try to do it with a .223 but have yet to see anyone get it right even with long barrels and 1;8 twists with 80gn pills.
duncan61 wrote:I see some classes are 223 or 308 so understand why people spend loot on a 223 to try and get a result.Recoil is an issue
Oldbloke wrote:Don't lean into it so much. Pull the stock into the shoulder. Try and sit a little more up right, that way you will be be more likely to move with the recoil.
FNQ wrote:.308 reminds me of a LandCruiser.
It just works
cz515 wrote:It's a known in the inner sanctum of elite snipers that the earths rotation will effect the impact of the bullets, this means the creedmore in 6mm is the best as it's smaller size make the effects of gravity lower.
On a windy day it's extra fast speeds will overcome gusts upto 100kph. This is why the US army user them in directional fire weapons, because it can swing around walls and hit the target as intended by the sniper. They even used this special type of ammo to kill Osama bin lad
disco stu wrote:
Bigrich: I had wondered how light hunting rifles in sizes like 300 wm with heavy projectiles would go. Bit of a toss up between dragging around a heavy rifle or having something that makes you flinch
Bill wrote:If I had a 308 Id be thinking about what Wildcat I could turn it into
Skinna wrote:cz515 wrote:It's a known in the inner sanctum of elite snipers that the earths rotation will effect the impact of the bullets, this means the creedmore in 6mm is the best as it's smaller size make the effects of gravity lower.
On a windy day it's extra fast speeds will overcome gusts upto 100kph. This is why the US army user them in directional fire weapons, because it can swing around walls and hit the target as intended by the sniper. They even used this special type of ammo to kill Osama bin lad
And so you stating you know this, implies you are in the "inner sanctum of elite snipers"....
And you think "smaller size makes the effects of gravity lower"...
....By that statement alone, my 32 grainers at 4000fps from a 20 cal would be more effective killers on foxes at 600 metres than a 180 grainer out of a 300WM...
More proof that In plain simple terms, you are an idiot...!!!..
I cant believe the level of stupidity you have, & that you seem so intent on showing others...
I really hope you folks out there learning about the nature & physics of shooting arent taking anything of this diatribe on as anything more than an example of what NOT to aspire to...!!
FMD
bigrich wrote:Bill wrote:If I had a 308 Id be thinking about what Wildcat I could turn it into
6mm , 7mm , my favorite , 358 . it's definately a useful case
Bill wrote:bigrich wrote:Bill wrote:If I had a 308 Id be thinking about what Wildcat I could turn it into
6mm , 7mm , my favorite , 358 . it's definately a useful case
I've been thinking about the 375 Raptor a lot lately