bigpete wrote:Not sure when I last posted on here,but I got one of these from 10m with my 410 at work,and the other one from 100m with my 22-250 while hunting with my missus,who had to have the skin and the skull.
JohnV wrote:The art of fox whistling during the day is a complex one . Don't sit behind cover like a log because when you look over the log your movement is more obvious and your shape silhouetted . Sit in front of a broken background like a raggedy bush or jumble of logs etc. This breaks up your whole shape and makes small slow movements harder to detect . Also you can move a bit without hitting things and making a noise that way . Most new shooters whistle too much and it can just scare any fox off . What happens is the fox can zero in on the sound very accurately and then knows exactly where to look ( right at you ) for any tell tale sign of danger . You can see when they are homing in on the sound they turn their head from side to side and they move back and forth across the line of advancement towards the sound . Watch the fox and only whistle when he has his head down or is moving not when he is looking in your direction . This tantalizes them and denies them a good fix on the sounds location so they usually come in closer .
As a fox gets closer lower the volume intensity of the whistle to a few whimpers that also seems to make it harder for them to home in . If they turn away and look like leaving then give out a louder shriek and a few whimpers sometimes it gets them back sometimes not . All this helps keep the fox interested and moving into shooting range and hopefully a clear area . Don't wait too long to shoot as the closer they get the more likely they will spot you . Be alert for the fox that comes from the sides or even from behind you and only move very slowly as fast movements are very easy to see . Try and time any needed gun movement to shooting position with the fox looking down or away or on the side ways move as much as possible . Keep the whistle in your mouth and both hands on the gun and be in shooting position or near shooting position earlier rather than later . To minimize the movement required just as you are aiming to fire . Wearing a hat that breaks up the shape of the head and Covering the face with a camo veil is a good idea as a white face stands out . Foxes come to the whistle more readily in late winter when food is scarce . Right about now until before spring .
bigpete wrote:JohnV wrote:The art of fox whistling during the day is a complex one . Don't sit behind cover like a log because when you look over the log your movement is more obvious and your shape silhouetted . Sit in front of a broken background like a raggedy bush or jumble of logs etc. This breaks up your whole shape and makes small slow movements harder to detect . Also you can move a bit without hitting things and making a noise that way . Most new shooters whistle too much and it can just scare any fox off . What happens is the fox can zero in on the sound very accurately and then knows exactly where to look ( right at you ) for any tell tale sign of danger . You can see when they are homing in on the sound they turn their head from side to side and they move back and forth across the line of advancement towards the sound . Watch the fox and only whistle when he has his head down or is moving not when he is looking in your direction . This tantalizes them and denies them a good fix on the sounds location so they usually come in closer .
As a fox gets closer lower the volume intensity of the whistle to a few whimpers that also seems to make it harder for them to home in . If they turn away and look like leaving then give out a louder shriek and a few whimpers sometimes it gets them back sometimes not . All this helps keep the fox interested and moving into shooting range and hopefully a clear area . Don't wait too long to shoot as the closer they get the more likely they will spot you . Be alert for the fox that comes from the sides or even from behind you and only move very slowly as fast movements are very easy to see . Try and time any needed gun movement to shooting position with the fox looking down or away or on the side ways move as much as possible .
Keep the whistle in your mouth and both hands on the gun and be in shooting position or near shooting position earlier rather than later . To minimize the movement required just as you are aiming to fire . Wearing a hat that breaks up the shape of the head and Covering the face with a camo veil is a good idea as a white face stands out . Foxes come to the whistle more readily in late winter when food is scarce . Right about now until before spring .
I agree with most of that,from a bowhunting perspective,is its a good idea to try to have something roughly 20 yards out that they have to travel through that obscures their vision for a moment,like a rushes or a fold in the land.
Also,a feather on a stick or something like that out front is very useful for distracting/attracting them
JohnV wrote:The art of fox whistling during the day is a complex one . Don't sit behind cover like a log because when you look over the log your movement is more obvious and your shape silhouetted . Sit in front of a broken background like a raggedy bush or jumble of logs etc. This breaks up your whole shape and makes small slow movements harder to detect . Also you can move a bit without hitting things and making a noise that way . Most new shooters whistle too much and it can just scare any fox off . What happens is the fox can zero in on the sound very accurately and then knows exactly where to look ( right at you ) for any tell tale sign of danger . You can see when they are homing in on the sound they turn their head from side to side and they move back and forth across the line of advancement towards the sound . Watch the fox and only whistle when he has his head down or is moving not when he is looking in your direction . This tantalizes them and denies them a good fix on the sounds location so they usually come in closer .
As a fox gets closer lower the volume intensity of the whistle to a few whimpers that also seems to make it harder for them to home in . If they turn away and look like leaving then give out a louder shriek and a few whimpers sometimes it gets them back sometimes not . All this helps keep the fox interested and moving into shooting range and hopefully a clear area . Don't wait too long to shoot as the closer they get the more likely they will spot you . Be alert for the fox that comes from the sides or even from behind you and only move very slowly as fast movements are very easy to see . Try and time any needed gun movement to shooting position with the fox looking down or away or on the side ways move as much as possible . Keep the whistle in your mouth and both hands on the gun and be in shooting position or near shooting position earlier rather than later . To minimize the movement required just as you are aiming to fire . Wearing a hat that breaks up the shape of the head and Covering the face with a camo veil is a good idea as a white face stands out . Foxes come to the whistle more readily in late winter when food is scarce . Right about now until before spring .
Mick460 wrote:[b] in the middle of nowhere[/b] so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago
Skinna wrote:JohnV wrote:The art of fox whistling during the day is a complex one . Don't sit behind cover like a log because when you look over the log your movement is more obvious and your shape silhouetted . Sit in front of a broken background like a raggedy bush or jumble of logs etc. This breaks up your whole shape and makes small slow movements harder to detect . Also you can move a bit without hitting things and making a noise that way . Most new shooters whistle too much and it can just scare any fox off . What happens is the fox can zero in on the sound very accurately and then knows exactly where to look ( right at you ) for any tell tale sign of danger . You can see when they are homing in on the sound they turn their head from side to side and they move back and forth across the line of advancement towards the sound . Watch the fox and only whistle when he has his head down or is moving not when he is looking in your direction . This tantalizes them and denies them a good fix on the sounds location so they usually come in closer .
As a fox gets closer lower the volume intensity of the whistle to a few whimpers that also seems to make it harder for them to home in . If they turn away and look like leaving then give out a louder shriek and a few whimpers sometimes it gets them back sometimes not . All this helps keep the fox interested and moving into shooting range and hopefully a clear area . Don't wait too long to shoot as the closer they get the more likely they will spot you . Be alert for the fox that comes from the sides or even from behind you and only move very slowly as fast movements are very easy to see . Try and time any needed gun movement to shooting position with the fox looking down or away or on the side ways move as much as possible . Keep the whistle in your mouth and both hands on the gun and be in shooting position or near shooting position earlier rather than later . To minimize the movement required just as you are aiming to fire . Wearing a hat that breaks up the shape of the head and Covering the face with a camo veil is a good idea as a white face stands out . Foxes come to the whistle more readily in late winter when food is scarce . Right about now until before spring .
How long have you been hunting & whistling foxes for mate ?
Most of what you say is correct, but them coming to the whistle more readily in late winter is for the most part, just not the case at all.
That is when they are weaning their young, & they are notoriously harder to get to come to the whistle & are considerably more flighty during this time--this is the case with most animals, that they are the most cautious when they are weaning their young--its pretty much an un-written but mandatory requirement for survival.
They are currently partnering up & bedding down to procreate, & from that time through to early/mid spring (depending on the season), getting them to respond to a whistle with anything other than a disappearing act or sitting back at 300 plus yards behind a bush is considerably less as compared to other times of the year.
They come to the whistle the easiest when they are pups to young adults. And the adults come to the whistle easiest in late summer through to bedding down for the winter, not IN winter--and its in late summer when their food source is actually at its scarcest--after the harsh summer has has its effect on the wildlife & localised ecosystem & populations of their widely chosen protein sources are at their scarcest.
Just my experience anyway, & yes ive tipped a couple over.
Cheers
Skinna wrote:Mick460 wrote:[b] in the middle of nowhere[/b] so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago
Hey mate, no intention to offend...but i cant help to be dubious about your claim of a wild un-tamed fox coming up to eat out of your hand.
Thats not to say it would never happen, but i have to say, your picture of what appears to be a gravel/blue metal car park isnt exactly the terrain ive often seen "in the middle of nowhere"...
& i say a carpark, because if it were an old unused area not frequented by any kind of traffic for so long, it can now be classed as "the middle of nowhere", im sure there would be atleast ONE weed in that picture.
The ones living in the dunes along the coast of Adelaide come pretty close--ive had them within 2 metres of me at North Haven, & that was without food--but out in the sticks...yea...naaah...dunno about that...
& if you are so skillful with the button whistle so as to have them come right up to you like this you find it so easy to kill them with a knock on the head, then you should skip the border to Vic where they have a bounty mate--you'd make a killing... pun intended
Not to mention make some coin running classes for people to save them all those thousands of dollars on thermal equipment.
Sorry bloke, but your post just comes across as if this is so easy to do--mate if foxes were that stupid to so as to easily come to the feet of a human in broad daylight from the shriek of a button whistle, then they would simply not have evolved to the clever & cunning creature they are...& to beat them to death with a stick for an undamaged fur---sheesh--anyone would still be using a 22 with sub HP's because you dont see the hole when looking from the pretty side of the pelt anyway.
Im sure in this modern age of mobile phones, you'd have lots of footage too, id be keen to see it to see just how easy it is for you.
Cheers
Skinna wrote:Mick460 wrote:[b] in the middle of nowhere[/b] so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago
Hey mate, no intention to offend...but i cant help to be dubious about your claim of a wild un-tamed fox coming up to eat out of your hand.
Thats not to say it would never happen, but i have to say, your picture of what appears to be a gravel/blue metal car park isnt exactly the terrain ive often seen "in the middle of nowhere"...
& i say a carpark, because if it were an old unused area not frequented by any kind of traffic for so long, it can now be classed as "the middle of nowhere", im sure there would be atleast ONE weed in that picture.
The ones living in the dunes along the coast of Adelaide come pretty close--ive had them within 2 metres of me at North Haven, & that was without food--but out in the sticks...yea...naaah...dunno about that...
& if you are so skillful with the button whistle so as to have them come right up to you like this you find it so easy to kill them with a knock on the head, then you should skip the border to Vic where they have a bounty mate--you'd make a killing... pun intended
Not to mention make some coin running classes for people to save them all those thousands of dollars on thermal equipment.
Sorry bloke, but your post just comes across as if this is so easy to do--mate if foxes were that stupid to so as to easily come to the feet of a human in broad daylight from the shriek of a button whistle, then they would simply not have evolved to the clever & cunning creature they are...& to beat them to death with a stick for an undamaged fur---sheesh--anyone would still be using a 22 with sub HP's because you dont see the hole when looking from the pretty side of the pelt anyway.
Oh and I was speaking tounge in cheek, I am not that good at calling foxes and only do it if I'm bored, I don't particularly like killing animals these days unless it's for the table, if they're killing my animals then I will shoot cats, dogs and foxes but it's not really an issue where I am.
Im sure in this modern age of mobile phones, you'd have lots of footage too, id be keen to see it to see just how easy it is for you.
Cheers
Skinna wrote:Mick460 wrote:[b] in the middle of nowhere[/b] so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago
Hey mate, no intention to offend...but i cant help to be dubious about your claim of a wild un-tamed fox coming up to eat out of your hand.
Thats not to say it would never happen, but i have to say, your picture of what appears to be a gravel/blue metal car park isnt exactly the terrain ive often seen "in the middle of nowhere"...
& i say a carpark, because if it were an old unused area not frequented by any kind of traffic for so long, it can now be classed as "the middle of nowhere", im sure there would be atleast ONE weed in that picture.
The ones living in the dunes along the coast of Adelaide come pretty close--ive had them within 2 metres of me at North Haven, & that was without food--but out in the sticks...yea...naaah...dunno about that...
Die Judicii wrote:Skinna wrote:Mick460 wrote:[b] in the middle of nowhere[/b] so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago
Hey mate, no intention to offend...but i cant help to be dubious about your claim of a wild un-tamed fox coming up to eat out of your hand.
Thats not to say it would never happen, but i have to say, your picture of what appears to be a gravel/blue metal car park isnt exactly the terrain ive often seen "in the middle of nowhere"...
& i say a carpark, because if it were an old unused area not frequented by any kind of traffic for so long, it can now be classed as "the middle of nowhere", im sure there would be atleast ONE weed in that picture.
The ones living in the dunes along the coast of Adelaide come pretty close--ive had them within 2 metres of me at North Haven, & that was without food--but out in the sticks...yea...naaah...dunno about that...
I wouldn't be too hasty about having your doubts,,,,,
Did you ever see the video where a bloke was whistling for foxes using (Ithink it was a "Silva" ) and his son was standing off to one side ?
When the fox came in flat out,,, and jumped straight into the guys chest.
The son managed to get it all on video very clearly.
bigpete wrote:Well I called 3 in this morning but only got this one big bugger
Mick460 wrote:Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago in the middle of nowhere so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.
Mick460 wrote:Now me, well I just use my $2 button whistle and over they come, hit em on the head and get a perfect pelt. Actually this was a couple of weeks ago in the middle of nowhere so she can't have been domesticated or really ever seen other humans, perfectly healthy and I'll admit it, I didn't have the heart to nail it, just getting old and soft I guess.
Daddybang wrote:Stix wrote:Daddybang wrote:I think this thread should be shut down!!!!
Only because I don't have foxes up my way and I get bloody jealous!!!!
Well come on down...ill take you out...ive got another property in the south east to get to so you'd be welcome company cos ill have to go by myself...!
If I ever get a chance to get down your way stix I'll take ya up on that!!!
bluehorse wrote:
FOXES everywhere now , Urban foxes too . I had one visit me adjacent to chookpen at 7.30 am one day , Brer fox was just taking his time but I am law abiding citizen and bythe time i had unlocked rifle ,ammo, magazine , etc then it had disspapeared . No wonder the country is over run by feral vermin . Gun laws just do not work wellexcept for city yuppies and woud be greenies . I have sufficient tuned rifles to handle foxes and other vermin but leaving the rifle ready to go in the corner always will lose me my licences?? if I get inspected ?? Bloody feral dogs got my chooks too. some time back . Having guns in safe does not help me fix problem . Hahahha . Where is the sense of gun laws for rural properties over 50 acres ??