Bill wrote:what action are you going to use bigrich, detachable mag or floor plate ?
I think the 6mm's are going thru a renewed appreciation as we lean away from the common as muck 223
bigpete wrote:I thought you may have bought the 6x47 Remington that was up for sale on used guns
johnboy357 wrote:Don't forget your history guys - the .222 necked up to 6mm was done many years ago (1958 ?) by a gunsmith by the name of Arthur Langford (from Broken Hill I believe) - called at the time the 243 Myra - named after the guys wife - Myra. He also had a 250 Myra and I think a .308 Myra - all based on the .222 case. Then for the Martini Cadet owners he did a Rimmed version base on the .222 Rimmed case.
Many thought he was a bit before his time as he also came up with the Myra Extruder - a .22LR fired through a .17 or.20 cal barrel.
deye243 wrote:Rich good on you I have been hearing a lot of very good things about those IBI barrels who's the gunsmith you are getting to chamber the barrel.
bigpete wrote:johnboy357 wrote:Don't forget your history guys - the .222 necked up to 6mm was done many years ago (1958 ?) by a gunsmith by the name of Arthur Langford (from Broken Hill I believe) - called at the time the 243 Myra - named after the guys wife - Myra. He also had a 250 Myra and I think a .308 Myra - all based on the .222 case. Then for the Martini Cadet owners he did a Rimmed version base on the .222 Rimmed case.
Many thought he was a bit before his time as he also came up with the Myra Extruder - a .22LR fired through a .17 or.20 cal barrel.
He also came up with at least 2 variants of what is now the 17hmr.....none of which really has that much to do with bigrich and his 6x45....
bigrich wrote:deye243 wrote:Rich good on you I have been hearing a lot of very good things about those IBI barrels who's the gunsmith you are getting to chamber the barrel.
jim kent , buffallo gunsmithing at toowoomba . i'll wait till my dies turn up , and take the whole lot to him . most smiths use a 223 reamer , then bore the neck with a 6mm neck reamer . apparently . i'm sure he can manage . he's done a few jobs for me and everything has been spot on
thanks for your advice on this caliber mate , as stated earlier it'll be mostly used for comps shooting high BC projectiles . i made up a dummy round last night with a 243 neck sizing die and a 95 sst . it looks like a mini creedmore , sorta-kinda my waterman magazine will accomodate 3.4" COAL , and he also does T3 mags at 3.6" as well . it should make for a seriously accurate rifle , i'll be curious to see how it goes over 200-300 yards . i'm getting a medium sporter profile barrel , but the first two or three shots are the ones that count
i got the same barrel on my model 70 243 and it can shoot pretty good . it was warm last weekend , and groups opened up . i'm thinking i might tweak my load as the barrel has worn in a bit more . i might try some reloader 22 . it burns dirtier than 2209 , but gave better accuracy with heavies in my last 243 barrel . it's my go to powder for 270 win and 6.5 swede as well . 35 gn of 2208 gave me .3' at 100 with 87 vmax last time i loaded those in the IBI 243
reloading for rifles , ya just never quite done
bigrich wrote:bigpete wrote:johnboy357 wrote:Don't forget your history guys - the .222 necked up to 6mm was done many years ago (1958 ?) by a gunsmith by the name of Arthur Langford (from Broken Hill I believe) - called at the time the 243 Myra - named after the guys wife - Myra. He also had a 250 Myra and I think a .308 Myra - all based on the .222 case. Then for the Martini Cadet owners he did a Rimmed version base on the .222 Rimmed case.
Many thought he was a bit before his time as he also came up with the Myra Extruder - a .22LR fired through a .17 or.20 cal barrel.
He also came up with at least 2 variants of what is now the 17hmr.....none of which really has that much to do with bigrich and his 6x45....
thats OK , i'm a history buff and ya never stop learnin'
Larry wrote:I get a little confused reading this thread as it jumps between 6*47 and 6*45 a couple of times. The 6*47 is in common use in F open competition so Bigrich I think it will suit your comp needs. In Fopen it is used out to 1000yrds but is most accurate out to 600 yrds after that there is some complaints that it gets knocked around by the wind a bit more than the hotter 7mm SAUM.
Larry wrote:I get a little confused reading this thread as it jumps between 6*47 and 6*45 a couple of times. The 6*47 is in common use in F open competition so Bigrich I think it will suit your comp needs. In Fopen it is used out to 1000yrds but is most accurate out to 600 yrds after that there is some complaints that it gets knocked around by the wind a bit more than the hotter 7mm SAUM.
deye243 wrote:Larry wrote:I get a little confused reading this thread as it jumps between 6*47 and 6*45 a couple of times. The 6*47 is in common use in F open competition so Bigrich I think it will suit your comp needs. In Fopen it is used out to 1000yrds but is most accurate out to 600 yrds after that there is some complaints that it gets knocked around by the wind a bit more than the hotter 7mm SAUM.
Nope you are confusing the 6x47L we are talking about the original 6x47 which is a 222 Remington Magnum case necked up to 6 mm
bigpete wrote: You might be interested to know,my local gunsmith makes extruder barrels....
Widgeon58 wrote:I have been through this post a few times now and am searching for help on powders to use for a Rem 6 by 47 I am getting built up with, a 1 in 8, twist 23.5 fluted barrel it's on a Howa 1500 action with a detachable magazine, bullet weight 80 to 105. I have contacted ADI and they can't help me with a powder bullet weight beyond 85 grain. I am going to use the rifle predominately for hunting i.e.: fallow and pigs and wish to try some lighter-weight bullets if I can get to stabilize in the same twist.
Ideally, it would be great if I can use the same powder(s) in my 6.5 by 55 Swedish Mauser (M38)
Widgeon58 wrote:Many thanks, Blade Racer for all that information, this rifle is a project I am working on, it as yet to go to the gunsmith to be built up, but the smith will know in advance the bullet weights I intend to use so throat and magazine length will be discussed before build and I don't aspire to shoot at anything beyond 200 metres.
I am not committed to any particular gunsmith, so recommendations are welcome by all readers. I am based in the Bendigo region but not adverse to go elsewhere, should a gunsmith be recommended
Widgeon58 wrote:I have checked some of the target shooting Web sites and pulled some data from them
As soon as I find it again I will post what I have for comments as soon of the powders I didn't recognise, so will need to know if there are equivalent powders in Australia