BenRh wrote:Hi All
I'm thinking about applying for a cat c license
I'm 19 grew up and still live on my fathers farm. I still help out with a bit of farm work eg shifting sheep, lamb docking and shearing. Anyway I was going to apply for a Class B but heard you can't use other class firearms. My father has a class C license with a semi auto 22 and thinking of getting a pump action shotgun so that would mean I wouldn't be able to use it right?.
So I though I would apply for a class C as the SAPOL website says "This category of licence authorises you to possess firearms for the purpose only of use in a primary production business, as either the operator or an employee or relative." so that would mean I'm eligible. (https://www.police.sa.gov.au/services-a ... ms-licence)
So I'm wondering if anyone has apply for something similar and how difficult would it be. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:If you have your own farm then you absolutely be allowed a cat c.
bladeracer wrote:Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:If you have your own farm then you absolutely be allowed a cat c.
Only if it's a primary production business, simply owning a farm does not grant you CatC in any state.
Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:bladeracer wrote:Communism_Is_Cancer wrote:If you have your own farm then you absolutely be allowed a cat c.
Only if it's a primary production business, simply owning a farm does not grant you CatC in any state.
I use the term farm loosely. In QLD whilst it is not law pretty much if you have over 100 acres you will get cat C for pest control on your property and cat D if you have 5000 acres. It does not take much to be a primary producer status, a few head of cattle will do it.
bladeracer wrote:I can't say if he is correct, but he may be as the CatC firearms are licenced on that property, and the law has provision to allow employees, etc to use CatC firearms licenced to that property, ie, anybody else that might qualify for a CatC licence already has access to CatC firearms on that property. You'll have to query that with Weapons Licencing. As the firearms can't be used anywhere else, they are likely to always be available at the property when required. It would seem pointless if all the employees and family members applied for a licence. I think he may be correct, unless you qualify for your own licence for another property.
BenRh wrote:bladeracer wrote:I can't say if he is correct, but he may be as the CatC firearms are licenced on that property, and the law has provision to allow employees, etc to use CatC firearms licenced to that property, ie, anybody else that might qualify for a CatC licence already has access to CatC firearms on that property. You'll have to query that with Weapons Licencing. As the firearms can't be used anywhere else, they are likely to always be available at the property when required. It would seem pointless if all the employees and family members applied for a licence. I think he may be correct, unless you qualify for your own licence for another property.
In the case of a licence authorising the possession of a category C firearm the licensee must be a person who is engaged in such a business as an employee or relative of the operator and lives on or near the land on which the business is carried on, or frequently visits the land for the purposes of the business. I seem to fit that definition but I don't really care about buying any more cat c guns as all I want it for is to be able to use the firearms on the property. So I can get rid of the rabbits, hares, foxes and cats just roaming on the place. I do however want to get a bolt action centerfire just for a bit of hunting and target practice. But that's cat B so it's irreverent.
cz515 wrote:BR, I believe CiC is correct. You can be a primary producer with a couple of sheep or cows. You need a pic number (or is equivalent). And a letter from your accountant or stock agent.
Saying that unless it's a bush block it's quite difficult to keep grass down on 100 acres so you end up having a few cows, which you might as well breed and sell....aka primary producer.
Bugman wrote:If you think that you are suitable for a Cat C licence, then really all you can do is apply to the authorities. It will be up to them, obviously, to adjudicate if you fit the Cat C requirements based on the information you provide. Simple as that.
Bugman wrote:I think if the applicant has done their homework, there should not be a problem as such, but then again, it will be up to the powers that be. I know of only one case where a shooter applied for a Cat C (here in NSW), had taken legal advice as to how to correctly apply, what to write, what evidence to support such category application etc etc
and still got knocked back. This person went back to his legal advisor who suggested an appeal. It worked, but cost this person a fair bit more than they bargained for.
I can't see how a knock back can be detrimental to your licence record, but then gain each state is different in their own small way, so yes there could be a risk of being "ear marked" by some overpaid, and ill informed bureaucrat.
Bugman wrote:Yep. No matter what we do with good intent, some bureaucrat will try to offset a fair and reasonable outcome. All I can say is that I hope BenRH achieves his goal.
BenRh wrote:Thanks guys for all the answers
You have given me a bit to think about. I would talk to our dealer but he's just a hardware store with ammo in the corner. Might chat to a dealer next time I visit Adelaide. Would it be worth talking to the Firearms branch for clarification on the law?
One more question. If I was to put an application in and it get rejected based on the cat C part would that mean I'm still eligible for a A/B under the same application because it a far bit of a wait otherwise.
Anyway Cheers for the info.