Vince24 wrote:Hi guys
This is probably one of my first posts, so as a brief presentation, I am a shooter and collector, I am French (nobody's perfect) but my wife is Australian, we have moved into Australia in 2020 with the kids.
I have managed to import my collection from France to Australia (was an "interesting" experience going through the custom...) and I have purchased a few more since then. Mostly service rifles, i can introduce some of them if people are interested. I shoot at the Canberra SSAA range.
Long story short, I have quickly discovered that handloading is an absolute necessity in Australia, so I have gathered some ADI powders (quite painfully) and been helped into learning the handloading thing, which I must say, is a pretty interesting, and even addictive, activity.
Now the question, which powder for which rifle?
I get that we can experiment, but just to have a starting point.
I have gathered the following powders:
AR 2206H
AR 2208
AR 2209
AR 2213SC.
I have the following rifles and projectiles
6.5x55 => M96, M38 => 120 to 140gn pills
7.5 x 55 => K11, K31 => 168gn
308W => FR8, 98K, SMLE, Lee No4, Ruger Scout => 150gn
30-06 => Spg 1903, Mauser FN => 150 to 168gn
7.62*54R -> Mosin M44, M91/30 and hopefully one day M39 => 150 to 174gn
303 British => SMLE, No4, No5, P14 => 150 to 174gn
8mm Mauser => M1904/39, Kar98az, 98K => 196/200gn (what a pain to find those!)
So, I am calling to your long experience of shooting with the ADI powder, which one would you use for which rifle?
I do have a preliminary idea after a bit of googling and searching, but i don't want to influence your answers!
Thanks for your help!
Cheers,
Vince
Vince24 wrote:Hi guys
This is probably one of my first posts, so as a brief presentation, I am a shooter and collector, I am French (nobody's perfect) but my wife is Australian, we have moved into Australia in 2020 with the kids.
I have managed to import my collection from France to Australia (was an "interesting" experience going through the custom...) and I have purchased a few more since then. Mostly service rifles, i can introduce some of them if people are interested. I shoot at the Canberra SSAA range.
Vince24 wrote:Yes I know the ADI load data and I know that nearly any of those powders could work on any of those rifles, but I would like something more refined from people’s experience if possible.
For instance I have heard the 6.5x55 loves the slow powders like 2213SC.
Cheers,
No1_49er wrote:Would love to hear what your load data is for the 6.5x55.
2208 shoots < 1/4moa !
Military M96 / 38, or a modern sporter?
Projectile?
Powder charge?
Vince24 wrote:Hi guys
This is probably one of my first posts, so as a brief presentation, I am a shooter and collector, I am French (nobody's perfect) but my wife is Australian, we have moved into Australia in 2020 with the kids.
I have managed to import my collection from France to Australia (was an "interesting" experience going through the custom...) and I have purchased a few more since then. Mostly service rifles, i can introduce some of them if people are interested. I shoot at the Canberra SSAA range.
Long story short, I have quickly discovered that handloading is an absolute necessity in Australia, so I have gathered some ADI powders (quite painfully) and been helped into learning the handloading thing, which I must say, is a pretty interesting, and even addictive, activity.
Now the question, which powder for which rifle?
I get that we can experiment, but just to have a starting point.
I have gathered the following powders:
AR 2206H
AR 2208
AR 2209
AR 2213SC.
I have the following rifles and projectiles
6.5x55 => M96, M38 => 120 to 140gn pills
7.5 x 55 => K11, K31 => 168gn
308W => FR8, 98K, SMLE, Lee No4, Ruger Scout => 150gn
30-06 => Spg 1903, Mauser FN => 150 to 168gn
7.62*54R -> Mosin M44, M91/30 and hopefully one day M39 => 150 to 174gn
303 British => SMLE, No4, No5, P14 => 150 to 174gn
8mm Mauser => M1904/39, Kar98az, 98K => 196/200gn (what a pain to find those!)
So, I am calling to your long experience of shooting with the ADI powder, which one would you use for which rifle?
I do have a preliminary idea after a bit of googling and searching, but i don't want to influence your answers!
Thanks for your help!
Cheers,
Vince
Vince24 wrote:OK, pardon my French, by "collector", I just mean I like them. Formally, they are all under a cat B license, I am a member of SSAA, part of a military firearm club, with a range pass.
Vince24 wrote:thank you guys, this is really helpful, I'll see if there are more opinions and then I''ll try a synthesis.
Note it also depends on the rifle in the given calibre.
E.g. No1Mk3 said he likes 2209 in a 7.62*54R.
I can believe that in a 91/30, but how about an M44? I am going to set fire to the bush with the muzzle flame if I use 2209 in this short barrel?;)
The biggest surprise so far is the relatively fast 2206H for 303 British.
Is that because of the shape of the 303 case, i.e. large calibre but a relatively low capacity and slim case, a bit like a pistol case, compared to e.g. 6.5x55 or 7.5x55 which are just the opposite?
I am certainly happy to start with 2206H in the short barrelled Jungle!
Vince24 wrote:Back in France my shooter's life was easy: you can order ammo online and it gets delivered by regular post, so I was just shooting the regular PPU which are cheap and abundant in Europe, and good enough for this kind of rifle - the PPU also exist in "Match" versions in Europe, barely more expensive than the regular ones.
Here of course, no mail delivery for ammo, Canberra is f.cking far from Cleavers so I had to go into handloading, but handloading for 30 rifles requires time and a business-like organisation, especially if you want to keep the price at around $1 per round or less.
Vince24 wrote:Ordering ammo online until last september? With the regular mail in Australia??
When I say ordering online in France, I mean the regular stuff, like the books for your kids. Just need to show a licence.
I was paying between 70 cents and 1 euro in France or in Luxembourg, just need to know the good places.
https://armurerie.lu/430-prvi-partizan?p=3
that being said, I don't complain, it got me into reloading, and I find it incredibly interesting - and addictive!!