AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:I have stocked up on the batteries for my red dots and scopes Woolworths coles and local parts stores have removed them from the shelves. As you were saying 95% of car remotes, fobs, watches run a button battery. Pretty much a knee jerk reaction that hasn't been all that well thought out.
We have bigger problems if a kid manages to get a battery out of a red dot or scope. Just another example of legislation being passed to appease the piss weak.
bladeracer wrote:
It's just the devices that are an issue, there's no issue with the batteries themselves.
The issue is that many scopes and other accessories don't comply with the requirements of preventing children from removing the batteries, many fobs, remotes and such do have something to prevent easy access so are not a problem. We can still own the batteries as far as I understand.
https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/three-months-to-go-for-button-battery-safety-standards
"Under the mandatory safety and information standards, products must have secure battery compartments to prevent children from gaining access to the batteries. Manufacturers must undertake compliance testing, supply batteries in child-resistant packaging, and place additional warnings and emergency advice on packaging and instructions."
MtnMan wrote:Got to be able to buy a button battery first.
Only last week a mate of mine had to buy a new welding helmet because the battery in the helmet he had was flat and he couldn't find a new one to buy anywhere. CR 3420.
cz515 wrote:John i do agree our governments are very trigger happy to enact more and more legislation.
But there is a reason why a lot of ppl in third world countries are wanting to move to Western countries. And its not because they feel they can do anything they want in those countries. The old saying goes, things look good from a far are likely far from good.
Going back to the battery issue, why is it that we are hearing about it now, apparently the law was passed 18 months ago.
MtnMan wrote:Got to be able to buy a button battery first.
Only last week a mate of mine had to buy a new welding helmet because the battery in the helmet he had was flat and he couldn't find a new one to buy anywhere. CR 3420.
cz515 wrote:I looked at the legislation it talks about having child proof containers to store batteries. So the batteries themselves are not banned. I suspect devices that don't have child tamper proof setting cannot be sold. No where does it say you cannot own a device that doesn't meet the standards and has to be returned and destroyed. So people need to stop acting like chicken, you (in most) are grown men, act like that.
And it's a blanket ban so easier to legislate, and if you start to have exceptions then plenty of other manufacturers with more money would be asking for exemptions. Inflation is high, save your tin foil ladies
Col wrote:Just reading this thread and the whole bit leads me to ask, how the bloody hell are kids able to get to an illuminated scope if attached to a gun? Not quite the sort of kit you just leave lying around for junior to play with is it, or have I got this completely wrong.
cz515 wrote:Johnv i am getting old.. i did look at that exact chart i didn't find cr3420.
GQS mate, as i said it doesn't matter for those who already own one, the distributors should have been communicating it for 18+ months so consumers could stock up. I suppose there is no stopping people selling used devices.
Now in EU under EN 62115 there is already legislation regarding button batteries where its mandated that they cannot be removed without using a tool, so i reckon most scopes (produced for europe) already would have that setup.
Col wrote:Just reading this thread and the whole bit leads me to ask, how the bloody hell are kids able to get to an illuminated scope if attached to a gun? Not quite the sort of kit you just leave lying around for junior to play with is it, or have I got this completely wrong.
Col wrote:Just reading this thread and the whole bit leads me to ask, how the bloody hell are kids able to get to an illuminated scope if attached to a gun? Not quite the sort of kit you just leave lying around for junior to play with is it, or have I got this completely wrong.
bladeracer wrote:The damage this legislation is likely to cause to our small businesses seems to be far out of proportion to the scale of the issue.
Fionn wrote:bladeracer wrote:The damage this legislation is likely to cause to our small businesses seems to be far out of proportion to the scale of the issue.
Lets quantify this statement a bit further.
How much do you think will it cost small business in Australia as a whole to be compliant to the requirement? taking into account they have had 18 months already to transition to the law.
How much would it cost for the government to take no action on the matter?
bladeracer wrote:
It will completely cut supply of some of the product they currently sell, so I would guess anything from no cost at all for those businesses that don't sell these products to quite severe for those businesses that specialise in them.
bladeracer wrote:I can't see that it would cost the government anything at all to do nothing.
It costs us taxpayers something every time a child is injured and requires medical care.
What would it cost the government to push a media education campaign instead?