Hagakure wrote:Hi there,
I’m a farmer with a newly approved Category C license.
Does this license permit only firearms that are defined by the category definition? I.e. semi auto rimfires and semi auto shotguns?
Or can I purchase anything from A and B also (my license only shows C though).
I was thinking a centrefire 223 would be appropriate since kangaroo culling (under permit) is one one the the farms needs and I can’t see a rimfire doing that, regardless of semi auto firing.
223 seems like a better choice but is that available to category C holders?
bladeracer wrote:If you only have a CatC licence I would expect you can only own and use CatC firearms. Add CatA/B to your licence. But buy a CatC rifle or gun as well if you want to keep your CatC licence, you were granted it because you showed a genuine reason for it. If you no longer have genuine need for it I would expect them to cancel it, though what would precipitate them doing that I don't know, it might not occur until renewal time when their records will show that throughout that period you never actually bought one, thus you have no need of it.
.223 will be either CatB (all actions except semi-auto), or CatD for semi-auto rifles.
It is quite difficult to get cull permits for roos, and you can't take them with rimfires anyway, minimum is .204 I think.
Hagakure wrote:Yes, that's more or less what the firearms store people said -- that you're restricted to arms inside the definition. In any case, I have applied for the A/B now to cover the existing arms, and will probably pickup a semi .22 magnum for myself. Historically, it hasn't been too difficult to obtain roo culling licenses on this farm, but the work was always done by outsider guys.
Thanks for your help guys -- I hope this thread gets picked up as I looked pretty extensively, but it's a difficult search query to find precise answers for. Cheers
bladeracer wrote:Sounds like a plan, but be aware that you can't take roos with the WMR.
bladeracer wrote:Sounds like a plan, but be aware that you can't take roos with the WMR. WMR is allowed for wallabies out to 80m.
Appendix 3 of the Code.
https://agrifutures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/20-126-digital.pdf
Hagakure wrote:bladeracer wrote:Sounds like a plan, but be aware that you can't take roos with the WMR. WMR is allowed for wallabies out to 80m.
Appendix 3 of the Code.
https://agrifutures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/20-126-digital.pdf
Indeed, that is why I'm applying to extend the license to A/B/C because it's my view also that a 22wmr isn't adequate for a roo. I'm sure a crack shot could manage that a close range, but I'm not interested in inflicting non-fatal wounds on wildlife, that's for sure. .223 for sure.
bladeracer wrote:Absolutely. The combination of WMR and semi-auto I think you might struggle to get the accuracy for head-shooting wallabies even out to 80m though. Have you decided what model of semi-auto WMR you're interested in?
Hagakure wrote:bladeracer wrote:Absolutely. The combination of WMR and semi-auto I think you might struggle to get the accuracy for head-shooting wallabies even out to 80m though. Have you decided what model of semi-auto WMR you're interested in?
Sorry, just saw this bladeracer, I haven’t decided yet - just wanted to get the licensing out of the way. Would you have any recommendations for WMR semis?
bladeracer wrote: CZ512 is the first one that comes to mind, and Savage do one I think. The KelTec carbine is common in the US but I've never heard of the brand down here. I know nothing about any of them so couldn't recommend any, but the CZ would likely be what I would look at first.
Hagakure wrote:bladeracer wrote: CZ512 is the first one that comes to mind, and Savage do one I think. The KelTec carbine is common in the US but I've never heard of the brand down here. I know nothing about any of them so couldn't recommend any, but the CZ would likely be what I would look at first.
Thanks - yes, those the CZ and the savage seem to be the two that come up the most in Australian searches. Probably there isn’t an aweful lot of choice really. Seems like you need to start with what’s available rather than what’s out there generally. Both seem pretty decent though.
bladeracer wrote:Thanks - yes, those the CZ and the savage seem to be the two that come up the most in Australian searches. Probably there isn’t an aweful lot of choice really. Seems like you need to start with what’s available rather than what’s out there generally. Both seem pretty decent though.