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Post by pagun » 14 Feb 2023, 2:36 pm

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Post by bladeracer » 14 Feb 2023, 2:51 pm

pagun wrote:https://www.environment.sa.gov.au/licences-and-permits/wildlife-permits/permit-types/hunting/bow-hunting


So you don't need a hunting permit as a landowner or agent of a landowner controlling pest species on private property anyway?
If somebody has your permission to hunt pest species on your land, aren't they considered an agent of yours under the Act?
And you can't hunt on public land?
So does this actually prevent anybody from bow hunting?
I suppose deer aren't a pest species so you can't bow hunt those?
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Post by womble » 14 Feb 2023, 3:25 pm

I see the aborigines are still allowed to use their traditional bows and arrows like in the old west.
When they hunted buffalo on horseback.
Not many buffalo roaming the plains of south Australia nowadays admittedly, however as it is their tradition, we must include a caveat for them
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Post by womble » 14 Feb 2023, 3:36 pm

Oh and they also used crossbows in medieval times apparently.
I didn’t know that.
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Post by BMW » 14 Feb 2023, 3:53 pm

They can use rocks out Yalata way here in S.A. to stone wombats for tucker. Need to get the wombat in the headlights first though to slow it down.
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Post by pagun » 14 Feb 2023, 4:16 pm

bladeracer wrote:
pagun wrote:https://www.environment.sa.gov.au/licences-and-permits/wildlife-permits/permit-types/hunting/bow-hunting


So you don't need a hunting permit as a landowner or agent of a landowner controlling pest species on private property anyway?
If somebody has your permission to hunt pest species on your land, aren't they considered an agent of yours under the Act?
And you can't hunt on public land?
So does this actually prevent anybody from bow hunting?
I suppose deer aren't a pest species so you can't bow hunt those?


We used to be able to hunt on public land. This is such bulls**t. Give up eating i guess. c***
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Post by bigpete » 14 Feb 2023, 5:15 pm

pagun wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
pagun wrote:https://www.environment.sa.gov.au/licences-and-permits/wildlife-permits/permit-types/hunting/bow-hunting


So you don't need a hunting permit as a landowner or agent of a landowner controlling pest species on private property anyway?
If somebody has your permission to hunt pest species on your land, aren't they considered an agent of yours under the Act?
And you can't hunt on public land?
So does this actually prevent anybody from bow hunting?
I suppose deer aren't a pest species so you can't bow hunt those?


We used to be able to hunt on public land. This is such bulls**t. Give up eating i guess. c***


When did we used to be able to hunt public land,and where ? Aside from game reserves and theoretical unalienated crown land,neither i,or my father,have heard of being able to hunt public land in SA.
As Bladeracer says,there appears to be substantial loopholes in the current written legislation. I bet they change the wording to that pretty quickly.
What part says culling is no longer allowed ?
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Post by Oldbloke » 14 Feb 2023, 6:11 pm

Ummm, I didn't think abos used bows and arrows.? Spears and Boomerangs was my understanding.
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Post by bigpete » 14 Feb 2023, 6:50 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Ummm, I didn't think abos used bows and arrows.? Spears and Boomerangs was my understanding.


Actually some evidence of them using bows in general north. I'd imagine there's the possibility of some trade with the Papuan people.
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Post by bigpete » 14 Feb 2023, 6:54 pm

womble wrote:I see the aborigines are still allowed to use their traditional bows and arrows like in the old west.
When they hunted buffalo on horseback.
Not many buffalo roaming the plains of south Australia nowadays admittedly, however as it is their tradition, we must include a caveat for them


Technically....aboriginals don't need a permit....ergo they can use bows if they choose for hunting. Same as landowners, landowners family, and agents of landowners in the act of controlling unprotected species causing damage on aforementioned landowners property. Loopholes.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 14 Feb 2023, 7:01 pm

I don't think it really matters how our indigenous brothers hunt, boomerang, spear, rifle or trap. I think it's only fair they can take whatever they want, however they please
I'm dead against being told that I can't hunt, I feel being able to harvest food in all forms provided it's sustainable and not a protected species should be our God given right just as it is for the indigenous people of Australia.

We're also only one step away from needing a permit to fish.
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Post by Oldbloke » 14 Feb 2023, 7:55 pm

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Post by pagun » 14 Feb 2023, 8:20 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I don't think it really matters how our indigenous brothers hunt, boomerang, spear, rifle or trap. I think it's only fair they can take whatever they want, however they please
I'm dead against being told that I can't hunt, I feel being able to harvest food in all forms provided it's sustainable and not a protected species should be our God given right just as it is for the indigenous people of Australia.

We're also only one step away from needing a permit to fish.


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Post by pagun » 14 Feb 2023, 8:22 pm

bigpete wrote:
pagun wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
pagun wrote:https://www.environment.sa.gov.au/licences-and-permits/wildlife-permits/permit-types/hunting/bow-hunting


So you don't need a hunting permit as a landowner or agent of a landowner controlling pest species on private property anyway?
If somebody has your permission to hunt pest species on your land, aren't they considered an agent of yours under the Act?
And you can't hunt on public land?
So does this actually prevent anybody from bow hunting?
I suppose deer aren't a pest species so you can't bow hunt those?


We used to be able to hunt on public land. This is such bulls**t. Give up eating i guess. c***


When did we used to be able to hunt public land,and where ? Aside from game reserves and theoretical unalienated crown land,neither i,or my father,have heard of being able to hunt public land in SA.
As Bladeracer says,there appears to be substantial loopholes in the current written legislation. I bet they change the wording to that pretty quickly.
What part says culling is no longer allowed ?


Yer just crown land and reserves i guess. Doesnt matter now i guess...
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Post by womble » 15 Feb 2023, 3:12 am

I just feel if you’re going to stipulate an exception to the ruling for cultural reasons then it should apply to the relevant culture.
There’s no historical evidence of indigenous peoples hunting deer prior to European settlement.
It was the settlers that brought the deer here for the purpose of hunting, because tradition and or because kangaroo tastes like ass.
Ideally you shouldn’t have two sets of rules for different people anyway because Australia. And because everyones ancestors hunted. Ancestral vegans being the exception, were too weak to hunt and died out due to starvation.
And yet the legislation as a whole is written specifically for vegans.
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Post by S O K A R » 15 Feb 2023, 3:32 am

pagun wrote:
We used to be able to hunt on public land. This is such bulls**t. Give up eating i guess. c***

Count yourself lucky, atleast you can still hunt with bows under certain conditions.
Hunting with bows period is banned here in Tassie.
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Post by bigpete » 15 Feb 2023, 4:30 am

We used to be able to hunt on public land. This is such bulls**t. Give up eating i guess. c***[/quote]

When did we used to be able to hunt public land,and where ? Aside from game reserves and theoretical unalienated crown land,neither i,or my father,have heard of being able to hunt public land in SA.
As Bladeracer says,there appears to be substantial loopholes in the current written legislation. I bet they change the wording to that pretty quickly.
What part says culling is no longer allowed ?[/quote]

Yer just crown land and reserves i guess. Doesnt matter now i guess...[/quote]

Well you can still hunt one game reserves and unalienated crown land, if you can actually find it. So nothing has changed there
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Post by mickb » 11 Mar 2023, 4:30 pm

bigpete wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Ummm, I didn't think abos used bows and arrows.? Spears and Boomerangs was my understanding.


Actually some evidence of them using bows in general north. I'd imagine there's the possibility of some trade with the Papuan people.


Islands and Torres strait etc maybe, but no one can agree mainlanders did.
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Post by Oldbloke » 04 Mar 2024, 6:49 pm

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I thought your great great grandmother was aboriginal?

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Post by Oldbloke » 04 Mar 2024, 6:52 pm

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I thought your great great grandmother was aboriginal?

Lol

I'm beginning to think its "suck up to abo's' decade.
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Post by bigpete » 04 Mar 2024, 7:13 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
bigpete wrote:
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I thought your great great grandmother was aboriginal?

Lol


She was. And that doesn't matter now,as its a blanket ban on bowhunting for EVERYONE. Or did that elude you ?
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Post by bigrich » 04 Mar 2024, 7:20 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:I don't think it really matters how our indigenous brothers hunt, boomerang, spear, rifle or trap. I think it's only fair they can take whatever they want, however they please
I'm dead against being told that I can't hunt, I feel being able to harvest food in all forms provided it's sustainable and not a protected species should be our God given right just as it is for the indigenous people of Australia.

We're also only one step away from needing a permit to fish.


I believe you need a fishing permit in NSW
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Post by bladeracer » 04 Mar 2024, 8:28 pm

Looks like this has been pushed through even worse that initially stated.
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Post by Oldbloke » 04 Mar 2024, 8:51 pm

I thought it said earlier Aboriginals were exempt?
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Post by bladeracer » 04 Mar 2024, 9:44 pm

Oldbloke wrote:I thought it said earlier Aboriginals were exempt?


It said other things as well that they've tossed out.
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