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When you are too old to work as a professional

Post by mchughcb » 12 Dec 2022, 6:26 pm

Well its on its way. Good luck finding a new profession.

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Post by JohnV » 23 Feb 2023, 4:23 pm

Very hard to say. I knew a builder that got dementia at 40 and forgot how to quote jobs and all . I have met people still working well in their mid eighties . It's a very personal thing and depends on what job you do , most people know when the time comes to hang up the gloves. Don't see that the link is that relevant to the post title , she got kidney cancer .
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Post by animalpest » 23 Feb 2023, 8:11 pm

I am struggling to pass a medical to do work for a client. Sure, passed the eyesight, fitness test (push-ups, weight lifts, step ups etc easily). But oh my God my sugar levels were at 8.2 instead of 7 or less (I have type 2 diabetes).

Jeez, I may have to give up shooting out of a vehicle for work and retire. So instead I will go fishing, push the boat of the trailer and back on, walk down beaches with my gear. And go out the block shooting.
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Post by mchughcb » 23 Feb 2023, 9:22 pm

JohnV wrote:Very hard to say. I knew a builder that got dementia at 40 and forgot how to quote jobs and all . I have met people still working well in their mid eighties . It's a very personal thing and depends on what job you do , most people know when the time comes to hang up the gloves. Don't see that the link is that relevant to the post title , she got kidney cancer .


The job she had was a professional working girl. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.
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Post by wanneroo » 24 Feb 2023, 12:45 am

I've seen this in recent years with boomer colleagues struggling on either trying to hang on or call it quits. Usually in my field I think guys can hang on to about 65-70 years old, but after 70 I see a noticeable decline.

One guy I know that really should retire, he's got everything paid for, multiple houses, cars and boats, a US military pension, a police force pension, veterans monthly pay for service injuries and soon to be social security payments. He's probably got almost $14K a month in mailbox money from all of that plus I think has savings in retirement funds, etc. But he is scared to hang it up, thinking he's just going to be irrelevant to the world and afraid of losing connections with everyone he works with.
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Post by mchughcb » 24 Feb 2023, 8:01 am

wanneroo wrote:I've seen this in recent years with boomer colleagues struggling on either trying to hang on or call it quits. Usually in my field I think guys can hang on to about 65-70 years old, but after 70 I see a noticeable decline.

One guy I know that really should retire, he's got everything paid for, multiple houses, cars and boats, a US military pension, a police force pension, veterans monthly pay for service injuries and soon to be social security payments. He's probably got almost $14K a month in mailbox money from all of that plus I think has savings in retirement funds, etc. But he is scared to hang it up, thinking he's just going to be irrelevant to the world and afraid of losing connections with everyone he works with.


Seen it before with my directors and retired people who hang around hunting forums, otherwise known as relevance deprivation syndrome.
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Post by northdude » 24 Feb 2023, 10:59 am

I guess if you have worked all your life its just a habbit. My job is hard on your body Im not that old but not young either. My shoulders and back 1 hip and ankle are fuked but I just need to keep going as long as I can. What else can you do
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Post by on_one_wheel » 24 Feb 2023, 5:56 pm

mchughcb wrote:
JohnV wrote:Very hard to say. I knew a builder that got dementia at 40 and forgot how to quote jobs and all . I have met people still working well in their mid eighties . It's a very personal thing and depends on what job you do , most people know when the time comes to hang up the gloves. Don't see that the link is that relevant to the post title , she got kidney cancer .


The job she had was a professional working girl. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.


You know old people like to have sex too right ?
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Post by S O K A R » 25 Feb 2023, 2:22 am

wanneroo wrote:I've seen this in recent years with boomer colleagues struggling on either trying to hang on or call it quits. Usually in my field I think guys can hang on to about 65-70 years old, but after 70 I see a noticeable decline.

One guy I know that really should retire, he's got everything paid for, multiple houses, cars and boats, a US military pension, a police force pension, veterans monthly pay for service injuries and soon to be social security payments. He's probably got almost $14K a month in mailbox money from all of that plus I think has savings in retirement funds, etc. But he is scared to hang it up, thinking he's just going to be irrelevant to the world and afraid of losing connections with everyone he works with.

I mean I get it, I've seen a lot of older people drop off once they retire/take it easy, dementia starts to creep in more and more amongst other things.
Some people don't want to stop for fear of that happening, some just enjoy "workin for the man" so to speak.
As long as they can meet the job requirements I say let them work as long as they want to.

Had a close family friend pass away a couple of months back (he was 89), as switched on/sharp as any 60 year old I've met but he lost his license, as soon as he was unable to go out and connect with his friends/the world and keep himself sharp.
He would decline more and more each month, its sad to see someone so switched on decline so much.
So I get why older people want to keep active.
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Post by womble » 25 Feb 2023, 3:22 am

Use it or lose it.

The only old fogeys that I’d like to see gone and forgotten are the ex prime ministers and premiers. Too many to list.
The sore losers are the worst, make you wonder if the c*** ever had any class. Took their shot, cocked it up, that’s on them. Pun intended. Don’t blame someone else. You had one job. One chance. That’s it. Move the f*** on.
But no they have to express their usually regressive opinions on everything and criticise the current mob.
Build a bridge and get them over it then blow it up.
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Post by wanneroo » 25 Feb 2023, 3:30 am

S O K A R wrote:
wanneroo wrote:I've seen this in recent years with boomer colleagues struggling on either trying to hang on or call it quits. Usually in my field I think guys can hang on to about 65-70 years old, but after 70 I see a noticeable decline.

One guy I know that really should retire, he's got everything paid for, multiple houses, cars and boats, a US military pension, a police force pension, veterans monthly pay for service injuries and soon to be social security payments. He's probably got almost $14K a month in mailbox money from all of that plus I think has savings in retirement funds, etc. But he is scared to hang it up, thinking he's just going to be irrelevant to the world and afraid of losing connections with everyone he works with.

I mean I get it, I've seen a lot of older people drop off once they retire/take it easy, dementia starts to creep in more and more amongst other things.
Some people don't want to stop for fear of that happening, some just enjoy "workin for the man" so to speak.
As long as they can meet the job requirements I say let them work as long as they want to.

Had a close family friend pass away a couple of months back (he was 89), as switched on/sharp as any 60 year old I've met but he lost his license, as soon as he was unable to go out and connect with his friends/the world and keep himself sharp.
He would decline more and more each month, its sad to see someone so switched on decline so much.
So I get why older people want to keep active.


Yes I think "retirement" is not always good, especially for men. Everyone needs something to wake up to and one might not want to be "full time" but being engaged with some work is always good. Keeps the brain active, keeps social connections up and keeps one physically motivated and mentally sharp.

I have an uncle who basically gave up once he could get early social security at 62 and has a small pension. Just enough to exist with a paid off house. He could have kept working, easily but instead has sat around for a few years and spends every day watching TV, eating and sleeping. If he makes it past 70 I will be surprised as he is round as a butterball.

I think as long as you can do the job and be effective then I don't really care about the age. Happy to have older folks around working. In my field though(race tracks) it can be dangerous so usually I see around 70 years old, men start having a harder time keeping up.
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Post by womble » 25 Feb 2023, 3:32 am

on_one_wheel wrote:
mchughcb wrote:
JohnV wrote:Very hard to say. I knew a builder that got dementia at 40 and forgot how to quote jobs and all . I have met people still working well in their mid eighties . It's a very personal thing and depends on what job you do , most people know when the time comes to hang up the gloves. Don't see that the link is that relevant to the post title , she got kidney cancer .


The job she had was a professional working girl. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.


You know old people like to have sex too right ?


If they’re single maybe. Or newly wed for about 6 months tops.
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Post by bigrich » 25 Feb 2023, 5:51 am

i'm heading towards 55 , general fitness is good , been doing manual labour all my life . BUT , being a rather large fella , been over 130kg at 6'4" much of my life , my knees aren't that good and i'm off work at the moment from work cause my wrist is stuffed from using hand tools all my life as a metal worker . looking at going into a storeman /driving job . gotta keep working , but the wear in my wrist is permanant and if i don't change jobs now it'll only get worse as i age .i want to be able to pull a trigger and get round the bush for a bit longer as well :thumbsup:
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Post by mchughcb » 25 Feb 2023, 4:05 pm

womble wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:
mchughcb wrote:
JohnV wrote:Very hard to say. I knew a builder that got dementia at 40 and forgot how to quote jobs and all . I have met people still working well in their mid eighties . It's a very personal thing and depends on what job you do , most people know when the time comes to hang up the gloves. Don't see that the link is that relevant to the post title , she got kidney cancer .


The job she had was a professional working girl. Getting a bit long in the tooth now.


You know old people like to have sex too right ?


If they’re single maybe. Or newly wed for about 6 months tops.


She's an ex hooker and I'm guessing the clientle are looking for younger more bouncing bodies.
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Post by womble » 25 Feb 2023, 4:42 pm

She’s an impressive individual no doubt, very accomplished. Has kicked a lot of goals for freedoms, civil liberties.
But she’s no friend of shooters. Don’t know if she’s mellowed on that but likely not at her age.
Retired yes but still holds a lot of influence behind the scenes of another new party I forget the name of.
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Post by animalpest » 25 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm

bigrich wrote:i'm heading towards 55 , general fitness is good , been doing manual labour all my life . BUT , being a rather large fella , been over 130kg at 6'4" much of my life , my knees aren't that good and i'm off work at the moment from work cause my wrist is stuffed from using hand tools all my life as a metal worker . looking at going into a storeman /driving job . gotta keep working , but the wear in my wrist is permanant and if i don't change jobs now it'll only get worse as i age .i want to be able to pull a trigger and get round the bush for a bit longer as well :thumbsup:


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Post by mchughcb » 25 Feb 2023, 6:47 pm

womble wrote:She’s an impressive individual no doubt, very accomplished. Has kicked a lot of goals for freedoms, civil liberties.
But she’s no friend of shooters. Don’t know if she’s mellowed on that but likely not at her age.
Retired yes but still holds a lot of influence behind the scenes of another new party I forget the name of.


She supported Andrews over the omnibus bill for covid in exchange to allow street girls in St Kilda.
She was also offered a position in Labor if she didn't get a vote in the last election then was promptly booted out over preference deals.

Got no tome for the old bat and like Meddick they have one vote that becomes poison for the electorate.
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Post by bigrich » 26 Feb 2023, 6:21 am

animalpest wrote:
bigrich wrote:i'm heading towards 55 , general fitness is good , been doing manual labour all my life . BUT , being a rather large fella , been over 130kg at 6'4" much of my life , my knees aren't that good and i'm off work at the moment from work cause my wrist is stuffed from using hand tools all my life as a metal worker . looking at going into a storeman /driving job . gotta keep working , but the wear in my wrist is permanant and if i don't change jobs now it'll only get worse as i age .i want to be able to pull a trigger and get round the bush for a bit longer as well :thumbsup:


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:) good on ya :lol: i probably wouldn't have knee issues if i was shorter and thinner . i spent a lot of years climbing up and down of big forklifts (13.5 komatsu ) , probably 30-40 times a shift, and in and out of excavators . doesn't do the knees any good if your heavy. :roll:
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Post by animalpest » 26 Feb 2023, 10:57 am

Aha. Yep, I haven't needed to do much climbing. When I was a young bloke I was a brickies labourer for up to 4 brickies. Now that kept me fit but I am paying for it now
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Post by JohnV » 06 Mar 2023, 8:55 am

animalpest wrote:I am struggling to pass a medical to do work for a client. Sure, passed the eyesight, fitness test (push-ups, weight lifts, step ups etc easily). But oh my God my sugar levels were at 8.2 instead of 7 or less (I have type 2 diabetes).

Jeez, I may have to give up shooting out of a vehicle for work and retire. So instead I will go fishing, push the boat of the trailer and back on, walk down beaches with my gear. And go out the block shooting.

8.2 is nothing . It all depends on when you test . Test 2 hours after meals and that gives you a more relevant level . Anyone knocking you back over an 8.2 blood sugar level knows nothing about diabetes . Requiring a 7 blood sugar level is ridiculous and many people who are not even classed as a diabetics can vary up and down depending on what they consume and when they are tested . If a Doctor is applying this criteria get a new Doctor .
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Post by animalpest » 06 Mar 2023, 7:45 pm

Unfortunately JohnV I had no choice. A full medical for mines is only done by specialist companies as you need audio, physical test etc as well.
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