NTSOG wrote:G'day Lazarus,
I hadn't seen that chart detailing what goes into fake meat before. It seems to me that to espouse the eating of fake meat that is full of additives is a form of false advertising and is also counter to eating healthy natural foods like unprocessed red meat in the first place. So much for a notionally healthy vegetable/vegan diet.
Jim
NTSOG wrote:G'day All,
This article was in today's Age online. It's an article that makes a lot of sense to me both as an omnivorous human being and a breeder of Angus cattle:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/ ... 5d4q6.html
It challenges the quackery of the religious vegetable set with some commonsense research about the health benefits of unprocessed meat. [My wife tried a meat-free diet when she was much younger and, instead of red meat, took iron supplements. The supplements were of little benefit to her health as a woman, so she soon went back to eating red meat.]
I believe that it should be illegal to call plant-based products 'meat' or 'milk', e.g., almond derived 'milk'.
Jim
NTSOG wrote:G'day Lazarus,
I hadn't seen that chart detailing what goes into fake meat before. It seems to me that to espouse the eating of fake meat that is full of additives is a form of false advertising and is also counter to eating healthy natural foods like unprocessed red meat in the first place. So much for a notionally healthy vegetable/vegan diet.
Jim
Lazarus wrote::clap: https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/food/bbq ... s-c-451648
NTSOG wrote:G'day All,
This article was in today's Age online. It's an article that makes a lot of sense to me both as an omnivorous human being and a breeder of Angus cattle:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/ ... 5d4q6.html
It challenges the quackery of the religious vegetable set with some commonsense research about the health benefits of unprocessed meat. [My wife tried a meat-free diet when she was much younger and, instead of red meat, took iron supplements. The supplements were of little benefit to her health as a woman, so she soon went back to eating red meat.]
I believe that it should be illegal to call plant-based products 'meat' or 'milk', e.g., almond derived 'milk'.
Jim
JohnV wrote:If vegans , animal activists and the anti hunting lobby get their way then millions will starve . Without animal protein there is not enough vegetable matter grown to feed the whole World . Add to that the anti fossil fuel people wanting bio fuels and that takes even more land away from feeding people .
It angers me to see the UK having a go at Australian beef raising techniques from a piss ass nothing producer like the UK . Australia is around the third biggest beef producer , the UK is the backwards ones their farms are disgustingly filthy and riddled with mad cow disease . I know I have seen them . If the UK don't like it then tell them to buy from Brasil , full of more mad cow disease.
northdude wrote:if you don't want to eat meat why do you call your plant based s**t meat???
bigpete wrote:Vegans are just pure scum,nothing more to it.
Lazarus wrote:That's true John
Another big part of the problem is cheap imports.
Instead of supporting our growers, by whatever means, the governments have been supporting foreign growers at the expense of both farmers and consumers.
The benefits of globalisation are manifold.
https://citrusindustry.net/2023/01/12/a ... and-trade/
JohnV wrote:Australia is in trouble with fruit and vegetable production . In the last 21 years there has been no appreciable increase in tonnage grown . In previous decades before 2001 there was a steady increase every year but in 2001 production started to flatten out and it never recovered . Governments just keep quoting increasing production value in dollars but never mention that the actual tonnage grown is not increasing . With the extra population over that time , covid problems , droughts , fires , floods , production cost up by as much as 40% and more people turning vegan , it's no wonder there is shortages and higher prices like $12 for a lettuce . You can see that if all of a sudden meat protein was taken out of the food chain it would be a disaster .
Even wheat production can slip by as much as 50% less harvest in drought years .