JohnV wrote:I agree with " straightshooter " . We should all strive for precise loaded ammo but a few thou run out is not such a big deal in hunting ammo even when seated off the lands . A lot depends on how small your groups are and if you can even see the difference in your average group accuracy anyway . Some longer Tangent ogive bullets and Secant ogive bullets are a bit more susceptible to entering the bore out of alignment ( in bore yaw ) especially with a big jump to the lands . So on average it is better to get good bullet seating concentricity rather than bad and case neck fit is also a compounding factor . A lot of the small things that do improve accuracy slightly are not easily noticeable until average group accuracy gets down to say sub I inch anyway . You got to get the gun tuned up right and your shooting techniques right before you can really test some of the finer accuracy improvements . You will never see the effects of bad seating concentricity in the average gun if the gun shoots 2 inch groups . Projectiles that have too much run out will not straighten up much if the projectile is seated off the lands which is the case in most hunting ammo as it's not safe or practical to seat hard into the lands in a stalking type rifle . This is why I developed ( for myself ) skim neck turning for the factory chamber , partial neck sizing and the separate body die back in about 1967 . Redding manufactured the body die in secrecy for US target shooters for 20 odd years because they stole the idea .
That was my main point. For hunting a few thou won't matter. Target comp is a different matter.
Especially when you consider blokes get good accuracy with a Lee Classic loader, sort of proves the point.
Like a lot of things relating to quality. You need a lot of effort to achieve the very finest quality. But pretty darn good is easy to achieve. If you get my meaning.
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