Police Shoot Armed Man Dead in Nowra 15 BULLETS hit him

[Jackaroo]

Police Shoot Armed Man Dead in Nowra yesterday afternoon supposedly with a Glock (but take all news reports with a healthy dose of BS).

Supposedly known to police to have mental health issues.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-10/ ... /103306152

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-ac ... bc858c8e1f

[Jackaroo]

Surely he wasn't licenced??????

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affa ... 967b5ead6b

[Lazarus]

Sounds like suicide by cop

[Jackaroo]

Sounds like suicide by cop

They shot him 15 times, watching the video I thought I counted 17-19 shots......so a few missed him.

Surely they'd know now if he was licenced.....I'm starting to think maybe the gun wasn't real and maybe a replica?

[Lazarus]

All good questions Jackaroo.

Surely one of them should have been equipped with a bean bag shotty.

Easy to judge from the safety of our distance though, eh?

I saw footage that sounded, as you intimated, like a fusillade, probably a bit too much testosterone running

[Jackaroo]

All good questions Jackaroo.

Surely one of them should have been equipped with a bean bag shotty.

Easy to judge from the safety of our distance though, eh?

I saw footage that sounded, as you intimated, like a fusillade, probably a bit too much testosterone running

Absolutely fake or real gun, you can't blame the coppers for making a split second decision.

I'm just wondering why after now more than 24 hours, with all the other information that has been published and surfaced about this individual why it hasn't been published if he was licensed for the gun or if the gun was real.

If he was licenced and with all his mental issues, why wasn't his licence revoked? Could this be another failure on the NSW Firearms Registry?

[Lazarus]

Well, there it is, maybe another John Edwards.

Excellent point, perhaps the spin doctors are hard at work in their little burrows, trying to get the "optics" right

[Jackaroo]

Well, there it is, maybe another John Edwards.

Excellent point, perhaps the spin doctors are hard at work in their little burrows, trying to get the "optics" right

That's what I'm thinking.

[on_one_wheel]

There's got to be some way they can demonise all firearms owners over this while keeping their own noses clean.
One thing that will never come out of this is an admission that our strict firearms laws do not work, they'll claim they aren't strict enough.

[Oldbloke]

There's got to be some way they can demonise all firearms owners over this while keeping their own noses clean.
One thing that will never come out of this is an admission that our strict firearms laws do not work, they'll claim they aren't strict enough.

Spot on.

[deye243]

Probably put the blame on us and declare it a Stolen firearm even if it's not .

[womble]

Amazing how people just stay in the open to view it or film it. One guy in second vid peering out behind some leaves. Some just casually walking by.
Then bullets flying everywhere. Probably ricocheting everywhere too. People are dumb.

Like omg they shot him. How about like omg take cover ffs you silly woman.

Don’t hang around when the swat team arrives. It’s dumb. Go home.

[straightshooter]

Police Shoot Armed Man Dead in Nowra 15 BULLETS hit him

Just imagine the outcry if he was a brumby!

[Jackaroo]

The story continues with the below article and some new changes to the narrative -

Its gone from a 'Glock Semi-automatic Pistol' to -

"Police said Alexander Pinnock was armed with what appeared to be a firearm"

And -

"We are confident that the men and women of the NSW Police Force acted to the best of their ability,"


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-12/ ... /103313362

[Lazarus]

The story continues with the below article and some new changes to the narrative -

Its gone from a 'Glock Semi-automatic Pistol' to -

"Police said Alexander Pinnock was armed with what appeared to be a firearm"

And -

"We are confident that the men and women of the NSW Police Force acted to the best of their ability,"


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-12/ ... /103313362

And the spin begins, but not on the axis we imagined.
So, now we have an unarmed man shot 15 times by the sturm abtielung?
Intersted to see how that is written off

Getting more like 'Merica every day

[Jackaroo]

Interesting read -

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.a ... es-police/

[deye243]

Police Shoot Armed Man Dead in Nowra 15 BULLETS hit him

Just imagine the outcry if he was a brumby!

Narh bro it only takes 7

[on_one_wheel]

"Police said Alexander Pinnock was armed with what appeared to be a firearm"

So it's possible he was holding a banana or pointing his finger like a gun.

[womble]

"Police said Alexander Pinnock was armed with what appeared to be a firearm"

So it's possible he was holding a banana or pointing his finger like a gun.

If it was an imitation or toy they would make mention of it.
So yes, entirely possible deranged bloke was sheltering behind the ballistic shield they dropped with his banana.

Most likely we won’t hear any more of this through the media and it gets buried. But it all does read a bit weird, even for NSW.
Hard to zoom in on the video, but i think he opens the front door and apon seeing them retreats back inside. Someone yells tazer and apparently that’s the signal to start blasting away.

Anyway, can’t blame swat for loving their job I guess. Whatever went down equals one less violent nut job.

[alexjones]

If he was licensed or had a toy/replica I am sure we would know about it so they can blame legal gun owners.

However licenses came out in TAS in 1990(same year as QLD) and Martin did not have one. So if the narrative the media tells us is true they fail to mention that he was illegally in possession of the firearms.

[Lazarus]

If he was licensed or had a toy/replica I am sure we would know about it so they can blame legal gun owners.

However licenses came out in TAS in 1990(same year as QLD) and Martin did not have one. So if the narrative the media tells us is true they fail to mention that he was illegally in possession of the firearms.

"Police said Alexander Pinnock was armed with what appeared to be a firearm"

Sounds like he was guilty of nothing but being a mad cnut in public, that'll get you shot dead in a heartbeat these days.

[womble]

If he was licensed or had a toy/replica I am sure we would know about it so they can blame legal gun owners.

However licenses came out in TAS in 1990(same year as QLD) and Martin did not have one. So if the narrative the media tells us is true they fail to mention that he was illegally in possession of the firearms.

1991 licences were enacted in Tasmania.
1996 port Arthur massacre.

Martin did not have a licence and the LRD that sold him the ar15, Terry Hill owner of Guns and Ammo, knew well that Martin wasn’t licenced, but recognised him as the simpleton child who was. often in the shop browsing around after school.
So he knew Martin was dumb as s**t and he had a lot of money to flash around , so ripped him off blind.

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant_complete_interview

I’m not aware of any media narrative that’s says otherwise.

[alexjones]

If he was licensed or had a toy/replica I am sure we would know about it so they can blame legal gun owners.

However licenses came out in TAS in 1990(same year as QLD) and Martin did not have one. So if the narrative the media tells us is true they fail to mention that he was illegally in possession of the firearms.

1991 licences were enacted in Tasmania.
1996 port Arthur massacre.

Martin did not have a licence and the LRD that sold him the ar15, Terry Hill owner of Guns and Ammo, knew well that Martin wasn’t licenced, but recognised him as the simpleton child who was. often in the shop browsing around after school.
So he knew Martin was dumb as s**t and he had a lot of money to flash around , so ripped him off blind.

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant_complete_interview

I’m not aware of any media narrative that’s says otherwise.

Not correct. Bill Drysdale a farmer handed in the Colt SP1 carbine in 1987 when communist John Cain stole the guns. It was marked as destroyed but used by Victorian police SOG for training. In 1994 it was sold by the police on to a Bendigo gun dealer and was to be sent overseas for sale. However somehow it ended up in Tasmania. Terry Hill never admitted to selling Martin the Rifle. He was given immunity from prosecution and he still did not admit to selling the rifle to Martin so I believe him.

The reason there are so many so called "conspiracies" around Port Arthur is because they refused to do a royal commission and sealed the records for 25 years. Then when that was to expire they extended it for another 75 years. So the records are sealed for 100 years and no royal commission to answer the at least 50 questions that need answering. The biggest event in Australian history and no answers.


The Dunblane shooting in the UK records are sealed for 100 years too. Because the police new he was a pedophile but still gave him his licence because he was connected to the Labour party.

Sealing records(not to mention disarmament)is the worst thing a government can do because it creates mistrust.

[Lazarus]

If he was licensed or had a toy/replica I am sure we would know about it so they can blame legal gun owners.

However licenses came out in TAS in 1990(same year as QLD) and Martin did not have one. So if the narrative the media tells us is true they fail to mention that he was illegally in possession of the firearms.

1991 licences were enacted in Tasmania.
1996 port Arthur massacre.

Martin did not have a licence and the LRD that sold him the ar15, Terry Hill owner of Guns and Ammo, knew well that Martin wasn’t licenced, but recognised him as the simpleton child who was. often in the shop browsing around after school.
So he knew Martin was dumb as s**t and he had a lot of money to flash around , so ripped him off blind.

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant_complete_interview

I’m not aware of any media narrative that’s says otherwise.

Not correct. Bill Drysdale a farmer handed in the Colt SP1 carbine in 1987 when communist John Cain stole the guns. It was marked as destroyed but used by Victorian police SOG for training. In 1994 it was sold by the police on to a Bendigo gun dealer and was to be sent overseas for sale. However somehow it ended up in Tasmania. Terry Hill never admitted to selling Martin the Rifle. He was given immunity from prosecution and he still did not admit to selling the rifle to Martin so I believe him.

The reason there are so many so called "conspiracies" around Port Arthur is because they refused to do a royal commission and sealed the records for 25 years. Then when that was to expire they extended it for another 75 years. So the records are sealed for 100 years and no royal commission to answer the at least 50 questions that need answering. The biggest event in Australian history and no answers.


The Dunblane shooting in the UK records are sealed for 100 years too. Because the police new he was a pedophile but still gave him his licence because he was connected to the Labour party.

Sealing records(not to mention disarmament)is the worst thing a government can do because it creates mistrust.

I have to agree with that last paragraph.

The main reason politicians ang governments want to "seal" things is to cover their own arses.

There are documents from WW2 that are still classified as secret, because the Allies had to get pretty dirty to beat the fascists.

Our own ATO vigorously persecutes anyone who blows the whistle on their various fukkeries.

The worst thing about sealing documents, though, is it gets the foil hat brigade in a big conspiracy froth.

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[No1_49er]

You can get a copy of Lord Cullens inquiry, and the Governments response, here https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ary-school
Also, a news item from 2005 which shows that most of the sealed information was released because of the public perception of a cover-up http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4290938.stm

As with a lot of these atrocities, the perpetrators were known to police prior to the incidents, but nothing was done to prevent it.
Gray - Aramoana
Bryant - Tasmania
Hamilton - Dunblane
Tarrant - Christchurch (vetting failure)

The list goes on.

[Oldbloke]

Thx No1