wanneroo wrote:I have found this on Youtube and comments people have left in videos, along with forum talk, some folks I think can get too attached to their brass. It's a consumable item as far as I am concerned and only will have a certain lifespan. I can understand folks wanting to save money and if annealing gets them down the road, cool. But I wouldn't over do it or get too stressed when a case is just wearing out.
Jorlcrin wrote:wanneroo wrote:I have found this on Youtube and comments people have left in videos, along with forum talk, some folks I think can get too attached to their brass. It's a consumable item as far as I am concerned and only will have a certain lifespan. I can understand folks wanting to save money and if annealing gets them down the road, cool. But I wouldn't over do it or get too stressed when a case is just wearing out.
Yep; same Here.
I've not bothered to anneal brass; tried it once or twice many years ago, but I'm not doing the types of shooting that might benefit from annealing.
When I was young, brass was a lot harder to source(for me at least), and so making the brass we bought last as long as possible, MIGHT have made annealing worthwhile.
But these days, I run a pool of brass that is many times larger than what I'm using, and so the need to maximise it's life, is not really worth the time.
I dont want to get so attached to my brass that I waste time trying to find it, while the large porker departs at speed.
If I can find any ejected brass quickly, then all good.
But I often find I lose more than I have fail (from not being annealed).
Might be a different story if I was shooting professionally (roo shooting etc), but then none of the roo-shooters I know are annealing, either.
I try to keep my brass clean(so I can easily see when it's starting to fail), but I dont anneal.
And most brands of brass will give me and average of 5-10 reloads before I start seeing case failures.
Anything that fails in under 5 reloads, I'll avoid that brand.
In reality, it's each to their own...
gunderson wrote:odd you say the roo shooters you know dont reload, ALL the roo shooters I know do reload, religiously, even in their cheaper brass. as a packet of 223 at the shop now is around 20 bucks a pack or more even bulk buying, whereas they can buy 1500+ projies for almost nothing per shot in comparison, with primers and powder being the only sticking point and thats only a recent issue.
bladeracer wrote:gunderson wrote:odd you say the roo shooters you know dont reload, ALL the roo shooters I know do reload, religiously, even in their cheaper brass. as a packet of 223 at the shop now is around 20 bucks a pack or more even bulk buying, whereas they can buy 1500+ projies for almost nothing per shot in comparison, with primers and powder being the only sticking point and thats only a recent issue.
I don't know any roo shooters but I've bought brass from fox shooters down my way, they use factory ammo and sell the brass. I haven't bought brass since covid hit so it's possible that has changed recently. The fox shooter I know do it at night on top of their day job, perhaps they don't want to additionally invest the hours into reloading? At $10 a head down here, if you can shoot 200 a month it's an easy couple grand of extra income.
gunderson wrote:
The people I know who anneal are mostly those like myself who have long action and Magnum brass that will literally split necks if its not done as well as get caught in reloading dies etc etc... Some of mine and my fellow shooters I shoot bigger game with all have brass that is anywhere from $2.80 to $6 per case, empty.... be that the case they are most definitely annealing every few reloads otherwise its flushing money down the dunny.
odd you say the roo shooters you know dont reload, ALL the roo shooters I know do reload, religiously, even in their cheaper brass. as a packet of 223 at the shop now is around 20 bucks a pack or more even bulk buying, whereas they can buy 1500+ projies for almost nothing per shot in comparison, with primers and powder being the only sticking point and thats only a recent issue.
gunderson wrote:Jorlcrin wrote:Yep; same Here.
I've not bothered to anneal brass; tried it once or twice many years ago, but I'm not doing the types of shooting that might benefit from annealing.
When I was young, brass was a lot harder to source(for me at least), and so making the brass we bought last as long as possible, MIGHT have made annealing worthwhile.
But these days, I run a pool of brass that is many times larger than what I'm using, and so the need to maximise it's life, is not really worth the time.
I dont want to get so attached to my brass that I waste time trying to find it, while the large porker departs at speed.
If I can find any ejected brass quickly, then all good.
But I often find I lose more than I have fail (from not being annealed).
Might be a different story if I was shooting professionally (roo shooting etc), but then none of the roo-shooters I know are annealing, either.
I try to keep my brass clean(so I can easily see when it's starting to fail), but I dont anneal.
And most brands of brass will give me and average of 5-10 reloads before I start seeing case failures.
Anything that fails in under 5 reloads, I'll avoid that brand.
In reality, it's each to their own...
The people I know who anneal are mostly those like myself who have long action and Magnum brass that will literally split necks if its not done as well as get caught in reloading dies etc etc... Some of mine and my fellow shooters I shoot bigger game with all have brass that is anywhere from $2.80 to $6 per case, empty.... be that the case they are most definitely annealing every few reloads otherwise its flushing money down the dunny.
odd you say the roo shooters you know dont reload, ALL the roo shooters I know do reload, religiously, even in their cheaper brass. as a packet of 223 at the shop now is around 20 bucks a pack or more even bulk buying, whereas they can buy 1500+ projies for almost nothing per shot in comparison, with primers and powder being the only sticking point and thats only a recent issue.
FTL wrote:I have a batch of Lapua 260 rem which is up to eighteen reloads. 43g 2209 FLS anneal every 5 firings. Started with 20, now down to 17, 2 case neck splits at 17 firings and one loose primer pocket. Check each piece of brass for splits and case head separation.