alexjones wrote:so page 25 says 5 guns for hunting licence and 10 for competition licence.
gunderson wrote:alexjones wrote:so page 25 says 5 guns for hunting licence and 10 for competition licence.
so for most people I know that would mean handing in at least 4 to 5 guns... wonderful
Bazz wrote:Section 39: Hunting permission:
The regulations may provide for the following in connection with hunting permissions —
(a) the period for which a hunting permission remains in force (unless sooner revoked);
(b) requiring a person who gives hunting permission for land to notify the Commissioner if the person ceases to be an authorised person for the land;
(c) the lapsing of a hunting permission in the event that the person who gave the permission ceases to be an authorised person for the land;
(d) the obligations of the licensee under a Hunting Licence in the event that a hunting permission for the licensee to engage in hunting on land expires, lapses or is revoked;
(e) the renewal of a hunting permission.
So the regulations don't cover the amount of people a property can support
Section 40 states the below:
Suitability of land for hunting using firearm. Land is suitable for hunting using a firearm under a Hunting Licence only if the Commissioner is satisfied as to its suitability for that purpose, having regard to the following:
(d) the number of hunting permissions in force for hunting on the land at a particular time;
Then does not elaborate on what this magical number of permissions will be.
So if it's not going to be covered by the regulations and it's not specified by the bill, I wonder where the hell we're supposed to get guidance on how many hunters are allowed to be granted permission by a land owner?
on_one_wheel wrote:It's going to ba a bonanza for clubs.
Dess787 wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:It's going to ba a bonanza for clubs.
Most clubs don't want or can handle a flood of members, most will close their doors.
gunderson wrote:Dess787 wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:It's going to ba a bonanza for clubs.
Most clubs don't want or can handle a flood of members, most will close their doors.
Last I read many had already.
alexjones wrote:gunderson wrote:alexjones wrote:so page 25 says 5 guns for hunting licence and 10 for competition licence.
so for most people I know that would mean handing in at least 4 to 5 guns... wonderful
I flicked through a lot of the pages and there is a lot of reference to "refer to the prescribed regulation". So we will have to wait and see what the regulation says but yes pretty much for the average shooter having 5 to 10 guns is terrible. Will be a lot of guns getting sent to east coast dealers I would assume.
Dess787 wrote:gunderson wrote:Dess787 wrote:on_one_wheel wrote:It's going to ba a bonanza for clubs.
Most clubs don't want or can handle a flood of members, most will close their doors.
Last I read many had already.
Yeah for sure. Most clubs are not commercial entities, they are non profit. Who wants another 30,40,50 members taking away limited and valuable range time from long time members
on_one_wheel wrote:What a problem to have "we can't cope with the increasing demand... let's close our doors"
That's what happens when hobbyists run clubs without a scrap of business brains amongst the club boards brain trust.
What a massive missed opportunity for them, however I'm sure new clubs will spring up to take their spots and make the most of the increasing demand.
bladeracer wrote:I don't imagine too many people are lining up to invest time and money into clubs that can be wiped out overnight by the government like this. Same reason nobody wants to invest in primer manufacture here, you'd be mad to.
alexjones wrote:Home made guns found in Perth. Funny how these articles come out when ever the new laws are mentioned. Like that "underground bunker" last year and the "raid" on the gunshop.
"Police urged people to proactively contact them and arrange for the safe destruction of any firearms they may have manufactured."
So a criminal goes out and illegally makes guns but because the police urge him to hand them in he will out of the goodness of his heart hand them in. Gosh the police and politicians are delusional!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/3d-pr ... 37e0552673
mchughcb wrote:Dropped into a WA gun store to buy some ADI brass. Was given the big sermon I needed to go to a police station and get a temporary permit to buy the brass. I said yeah nah mate. And left.
Oldbloke wrote:alexjones wrote:Home made guns found in Perth. Funny how these articles come out when ever the new laws are mentioned. Like that "underground bunker" last year and the "raid" on the gunshop.
"Police urged people to proactively contact them and arrange for the safe destruction of any firearms they may have manufactured."
So a criminal goes out and illegally makes guns but because the police urge him to hand them in he will out of the goodness of his heart hand them in. Gosh the police and politicians are delusional!
https://www.9news.com.au/national/3d-pr ... 37e0552673
WA Police.
"Next month when these new laws are passed all the criminals will hand in all of their illegal firearms"
mchughcb wrote:Dropped into a WA gun store to buy some ADI brass. Was given the big sermon I needed to go to a police station and get a temporary permit to buy the brass. I said yeah nah mate. And left.
bladeracer wrote:mchughcb wrote:Dropped into a WA gun store to buy some ADI brass. Was given the big sermon I needed to go to a police station and get a temporary permit to buy the brass. I said yeah nah mate. And left.
Brass does not require a permit in WA. They clarified it just a couple years ago because so many people believed it was restricted, including myself.
mchughcb wrote:bladeracer wrote:mchughcb wrote:Dropped into a WA gun store to buy some ADI brass. Was given the big sermon I needed to go to a police station and get a temporary permit to buy the brass. I said yeah nah mate. And left.
Brass does not require a permit in WA. They clarified it just a couple years ago because so many people believed it was restricted, including myself.
I had a sermon at Claremont firearms and all three of them behind the counter chimed in. To be honest I can buy cheaper in Vic but was trying to throw them some business. Their loss, Victoria's gain.
mchughcb wrote:No valid WA licence. Needed a WA permit.
alexjones wrote:mchughcb wrote:No valid WA licence. Needed a WA permit.
Yes WA does not recognise non WA firearm licences. If you have a licence outside of WA you need a temporary permit.
I drove my car over there on a QLD licence and it was legal so why should a gun be any different? WA really is the worst state in the Commonwealth.