Who Owns A Quarterbore ?

[bigpete]

So,circumstances at work are leading me down the path of getting something very flat shooting.
Don't need advice as such,have spent the last 2 days once again going down the 25 cal worm hole and have basically decided I want an 85gn pill max travelling at 3500fps or as close as. So candidates are pretty much 25-06,25-06 imp,or 257 weatherby. I don't care about barrel life,likely it will be shot maybe 10x a year.
So,anyone own one of the above and use it for shots at fallow and smaller up to 400m ?

[mickb]

Closest Ive owned is an exmil 6.5x55 so not really qualified to comment. I always had an admiration for the 257 weatherby though, just off reading the ballistics when I was younger. I believe it tops the other options you mention out. 84 grains case capacity water to the case mouth, (roughly the same as a 338 win mag) versus 64grains for the 25-06...

[deye243]

Well the 25 is only flat out to about 400y .
We have a ruget VT 2506 and it's main diet is 75g vmax at 3800 but the noice is bad like a 22 250 but louder .
But it does the job .

[bigpete]

Well the 25 is only flat out to about 400y .
We have a ruget VT 2506 and it's main diet is 75g vmax at 3800 but the noice is bad like a 22 250 but louder .
But it does the job .

Yes,I've read the data.
Does the 75gn Vmax go ok on deer ?
Also noise isn't a worry

[Oldbloke]

Just buy a 270 mate.

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[bigpete]

Just buy a 270 mate.

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I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?
I do not want a 270. A 270 is not an option. I put forward exactly what I wanted to achieve. A 270 is not a quarter bore. I wouldn't buy a 270 if you paid me.
Now that's put of the way,anyone else want to chime in with their recommendations of something else I've zero interest in ?

[bigpete]

Just buy a 270 mate.

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No

[Oldbloke]

Ok.
Goodl luck buying components.
Mind you near identical ballistics.

[Blr243]

a while back when I wanted a really flat shooter I bought a 22 250 but I realised if I’m fox and cat shooting and I see a pig I might be surface wounding so I bought a 270 as it had a rep for flat shooting And to make it even flatter shooting I loaded it with 90 grainers It’s 3600 speed so very flat shooting and 90 weight is big nuff for boars. But it sounds like it’s not Pete’s thing … I have always been rather keen on the idea of a 2506 but it’s too close to my 270 so not really needed

[animalpest]

I have had a 25/06 for over 30 years - on its third barrel.

The 87grn are great for the game up to fallow. Bullets like the 75gr while very fast, lose velocity quick. They are excellent on smaller stuff up to dogs, kangaroos etc.

I generally run 100 gr Nosler BT on game such as goats and small deer.

[bigpete]

I have had a 25/06 for over 30 years - on its third barrel.

The 87grn are great for the game up to fallow. Bullets like the 75gr while very fast, lose velocity quick. They are excellent on smaller stuff up to dogs, kangaroos etc.

I generally run 100 gr Nosler BT on game such as goats and small deer.

Thanks,some actual proper input.
I'm going to stick to lighter projectiles as the area is ricochet sensitive. What 85-87gn pills did you try ? Did they exit fallow sized game ?

[mchughcb]

I've only used a 2506 on roos. I've seen it shoot horses and donkeys in WA. 75gr nosler ballistic tips would completely remove a roos head.
I've not used them on deer but it one flat shooting calibre and does have a bit of boot if you are using out of a tojo window and gets tiring if you are shooting 40 rounds a night which you've said you won't be. It was easy to load for and bullets are easy to get. Good luck with it.

[No1Mk3]

I still have a 25-06, I only shoot 500yd targets with 117g now but I used to use it on goats etc, and can only echo animalpest, the 100g Nosler ballistic tip was very effective.

[Peterwho]

I have one and love it. REM 700 cdl with stainless barrel. I prefer 117 projectiles on deer. Was using a 243 before but the 25-06 is way more emphatic. I took it to Bondi SF a couple of months ago and got a nice older stag.

[bigrich]

well , lots of quarter bore love here my 250 savage project got dropped of at my smiths on friday . supplied a dummy round with a 100gn speer hot core to get a extended freebore , as the original design doesn't really have any . my projectiles of choice , 85, 100gn speers and 100 nosler BT's . according to people on yank forums, these are the pick for hunting . unless you can afford partitions...... .

good luck with 25-06 pete . it's got good "off the shelf" reloading supply . if brass supply wasn't a issue i'd probably go with a 257bob improved . extremely efficient flat shooting bit of gear . i wanted something mild but effective out to 300 for hoppers and lighter ferals , and i reckon the 250 will do me.

better than a nasty old 243 , hey pete

[bigpete]

well , lots of quarter bore love here my 250 savage project got dropped of at my smiths on friday . supplied a dummy round with a 100gn speer hot core to get a extended freebore , as the original design doesn't really have any . my projectiles of choice , 85, 100gn speers and 100 nosler BT's . according to people on yank forums, these are the pick for hunting . unless you can afford partitions...... .

good luck with 25-06 pete . it's got good "off the shelf" reloading supply . if brass supply wasn't a issue i'd probably go with a 257bob improved . extremely efficient flat shooting bit of gear . i wanted something mild but effective out to 300 for hoppers and lighter ferals , and i reckon the 250 will do me.

better than a nasty old 243 , hey pete

Or the overrated 270....

I was actually hoping I'd get some input regarding the 257 weatherby but I guess its just a bit too rare.
25-06 imp would be good and not too hard to get hold of.

[Oldbloke]

Mmm,,,,fish are off the bite.
Me, I base my decisions on fact. You know, numbers. Look at the 90gr. And availability/cost of bullets could well be better for the sh1ty 270 since its so common.

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Given the sh1ty 270 actually has the edge, I don't think the reply you gave (below) was warranted. I was simply suggesting an alternative.

"I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?"

My2cents. Goodluck

[bigrich]

Mmm,,,,fish are off the bite.
Me, I base my decisions on fact. You know, numbers. Look at the 90gr. And availability/cost of bullets could well be better for the sh1ty 270 since its so common.

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Given the sh1ty 270 actually has the edge, I don't think the reply you gave (below) was warranted. I was simply suggesting an alternative.

"I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?"

My2cents. Goodluck

yeah, well , the heart wants what the heart wants . accuracy wise i've never had much luck with the 270 . the only round i'd consider on a 30-06 case is the 35 whelen . great load density , and accurate . with 6.5's they've got too much projectile bearing surface to get speed out of them before you reach max pressure . the 25's are actually very efficient, flat trajectory and good speed . a 6.5-06 with 120's wouldn't be bad , but load density isn't that great unless your using really slow powders . hornady and others are making high BC 130gn 25cal projectiles now, and 25 creedmoor is becoming a thing in the USA . flatter than the 6.5, not a barrel burner like the 6mm CM . the 243 works , but just isn't that great a case shoulder/neck design . from my research , a 250AI has great load density and is extremely efficient . it and the 7x57AI were two of ackley's favorites and had the best speed improvements . but i like smooth feeding and uncomplicated reloading . so no ackley's for me

[bigpete]

Mmm,,,,fish are off the bite.
Me, I base my decisions on fact. You know, numbers. Look at the 90gr. And availability/cost of bullets could well be better for the sh1ty 270 since its so common.

IMG_20240622_185345.jpg

Screenshot_20240622-194318_Samsung Notes.jpg

Given the sh1ty 270 actually has the edge, I don't think the reply you gave (below) was warranted. I was simply suggesting an alternative.

"I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?"

My2cents. Goodluck

Again you failed to comprehend that in my original post nowhere did I say I was looking for an alternative,I quite literally asked for real life experiences with the cartridges I listed.
I too pore over ballistic charts and reloading tables. The one thing they can't do is tell me the real life effectiveness of the components I listed.

[bigpete]

Mmm,,,,fish are off the bite.
Me, I base my decisions on fact. You know, numbers. Look at the 90gr. And availability/cost of bullets could well be better for the sh1ty 270 since its so common.

IMG_20240622_185345.jpg

Screenshot_20240622-194318_Samsung Notes.jpg

Given the sh1ty 270 actually has the edge, I don't think the reply you gave (below) was warranted. I was simply suggesting an alternative.

"I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?"

My2cents. Goodluck

yeah, well , the heart wants what the heart wants . accuracy wise i've never had much luck with the 270 . the only round i'd consider on a 30-06 case is the 35 whelen . great load density , and accurate . with 6.5's they've got too much projectile bearing surface to get speed out of them before you reach max pressure . the 25's are actually very efficient, flat trajectory and good speed . a 6.5-06 with 120's wouldn't be bad , but load density isn't that great unless your using really slow powders . hornady and others are making high BC 130gn 25cal projectiles now, and 25 creedmoor is becoming a thing in the USA . flatter than the 6.5, not a barrel burner like the 6mm CM . the 243 works , but just isn't that great a case shoulder/neck design . from my research , a 250AI has great load density and is extremely efficient . it and the 7x57AI were two of ackley's favorites and had the best speed improvements . but i like smooth feeding and uncomplicated reloading . so no ackley's for me

I have as much interest in owning a 270 as I do in owning a 243.....none.
I'm mildly interested in a hot 6.5 of some form but only mildly.
I've always wanted a 257 weatherby but I do realise that'll be hard to find. Still its a good option for the purpos I want,that is no thoughts required shots at medium game out to 300m,with 400m being a mere back line hold required,and almost zero chance of ricochet danger

[bigrich]

Mmm,,,,fish are off the bite.
Me, I base my decisions on fact. You know, numbers. Look at the 90gr. And availability/cost of bullets could well be better for the sh1ty 270 since its so common.

IMG_20240622_185345.jpg

Screenshot_20240622-194318_Samsung Notes.jpg

Given the sh1ty 270 actually has the edge, I don't think the reply you gave (below) was warranted. I was simply suggesting an alternative.

"I know you're getting old and all but what part of my original post regarding not wanting suggestions etc was so hard to understand ?"

My2cents. Goodluck

yeah, well , the heart wants what the heart wants . accuracy wise i've never had much luck with the 270 . the only round i'd consider on a 30-06 case is the 35 whelen . great load density , and accurate . with 6.5's they've got too much projectile bearing surface to get speed out of them before you reach max pressure . the 25's are actually very efficient, flat trajectory and good speed . a 6.5-06 with 120's wouldn't be bad , but load density isn't that great unless your using really slow powders . hornady and others are making high BC 130gn 25cal projectiles now, and 25 creedmoor is becoming a thing in the USA . flatter than the 6.5, not a barrel burner like the 6mm CM . the 243 works , but just isn't that great a case shoulder/neck design . from my research , a 250AI has great load density and is extremely efficient . it and the 7x57AI were two of ackley's favorites and had the best speed improvements . but i like smooth feeding and uncomplicated reloading . so no ackley's for me

I have as much interest in owning a 270 as I do in owning a 243.....none.
I'm mildly interested in a hot 6.5 of some form but only mildly.
I've always wanted a 257 weatherby but I do realise that'll be hard to find. Still its a good option for the purpos I want,that is no thoughts required shots at medium game out to 300m,with 400m being a mere back line hold required,and almost zero chance of ricochet danger

25-06 will be cheaper to run than the 257weatherby, specially the cost of brass. won't be too far behind the weatherby in reach/power either. 25-06 is a practical caliber for what you want , there's a few second hand ones floating around online too . hell pete, you've almost talked me into one !
ruger m77 laminate stainless varmit for $1099 on ozgunsales pete . tikka t3 on usedguns for $1100 . unless your going to do a build

[bigpete]

For the amount it will be shot cost isn't that big a deal.. And the weatherby outpaces the 25-06 considerably by what I read. But the 25-06 does share the same case head size as every other calibre I reload for....

[deye243]

I know it's not what you want but I have thought about a 25 7 rem mag 1:8 twist and 135g pills on more than one occasion cheap brass and good speed

[mchughcb]

No flies in weatherby performance but ammo availability is just a PITA.

[bigpete]

I know it's not what you want but I have thought about a 25 7 rem mag 1:8 twist and 135g pills on more than one occasion cheap brass and good speed

Do you mean a 7mm rem mag necked to 25 cal ?

[bigpete]

No flies in weatherby performance but ammo availability is just a PITA.

Thats right. I owned a 300 weatherby once,brilliant cartridge,and I can only imagine the 257 weatherby to be the same

[deye243]

I know it's not what you want but I have thought about a 25 7 rem mag 1:8 twist and 135g pills on more than one occasion cheap brass and good speed

Do you mean a 7mm rem mag necked to 25 cal ?

Yep a 25 7mm rem mag or 25 265 win mag same case

[bigpete]

I know it's not what you want but I have thought about a 25 7 rem mag 1:8 twist and 135g pills on more than one occasion cheap brass and good speed

Do you mean a 7mm rem mag necked to 25 cal ?

Yep a 25 7mm rem mag or 25 265 win mag same case

Interesting

[deye243]

I know it's not what you want but I have thought about a 25 7 rem mag 1:8 twist and 135g pills on more than one occasion cheap brass and good speed

Do you mean a 7mm rem mag necked to 25 cal ?

Yep a 25 7mm rem mag or 25 265 win mag same case

Interesting

It would be a barrel burner at about 800 accurate rounds but as a hunting rifle nothing to worry about it would still last for years .

[bigrich]

Hate to be a killjoy, but off the shelf components wins out over something custom like a 25-7mm rem mag for me. I don’t doubt it’s performance, but is it worth the stuffing around as opposed to what a standard 25-06 can do, and do well.