Usurper wrote:LMFAO.
No wonder our budget is f***ed.
Chronos wrote:Yep, it's called bureaucracy
What does it cost the government to do anything? About 10 to 20 times what the private sector could do it for.
Their regulations mean they had to fit out each volunteer with both a GPS loaded with maps showing exclusion zones as well as a spot tracker.
Three levels of communication including a VHF mast and repeater, sat phones, UHF.
Endless box ticking meetings, briefings, training, vehicles fitted out with recovery gear, first aid kits, gun lockers and defibrillators for every field officer
It should also be pointed out that these ground shooting operations are the last step in a pest control program of baiting, trapping and aerial shooting. No mention of the cost of those. Perhaps the high cost and low animal count is more a reflection of the success of these other operations.
For example in the park where I shot they had taken 1400 goats out of the park from January to April through trapping and arial shooting. 400 goats had been shot from helicopter the weekend before we went there. No wonder they were jumpy
It's called supplementary pest control and the laws of diminishing returns means the last step in the process will always yield less results for more cost/work and the fact is if SPC volunteers weren't going in to shoot they'd be paying pro shooters to do it.
Chronos
Seconds wrote:If only there were hundreds of license law abiding firearms owners who were eager to go out and do this for free...
Chronos wrote:
It should also be pointed out that these ground shooting operations are the last step in a pest control program of baiting, trapping and aerial shooting. No mention of the cost of those. Perhaps the high cost and low animal count is more a reflection of the success of these other operations.
For example in the park where I shot they had taken 1400 goats out of the park from January to April through trapping and arial shooting. 400 goats had been shot from helicopter the weekend before we went there.
Chronos
Fozzy wrote:"I don't mean to be disrespectful to the National Parks and Wildlife rangers, but experienced hunters don't need toilet cleaners showing them how to hunt," he said.
That is possibly the quote of the year.
Fozzy wrote:"I don't mean to be disrespectful to the National Parks and Wildlife rangers, but experienced hunters don't need toilet cleaners showing them how to hunt," he said.
That is possibly the quote of the year.
Chronos wrote:Unfortunately it's a bit off the mark, as I said in another thread the guys running the SPC program are all experienced hunters,shooters and pest controllers and not the stereotypical semi hippy university educated ranger I was expecting. Instead they are people who've applied for the job of traveling around the state for weeks at a time away from their wives guiding shooters through the process of hoop jumping.
I agree shooters should be allowed to "hunt" on more public land but unfortunately the frame work given to them and us by the Ofarrel government will not allow it. In fact it seems the very parks selected for the three year trial were chosen because of their difficult access and the failure of other program's to irradiate goats in particular
Chronos
bigfellascott wrote:Well it definitely sounds like it was set up to fail mate, sad isn't it, politics gets in the way of our pastime yet again, bloody disgrace really.
Chronos wrote:I'm not sure set up to fail is the right description but it's certainly a long way from the "hunting in national parks" we all thought we were going to get under the original 79 park agreement.
Korkt wrote:No mate, not pointing fingers at anyone here.
Edited my reply above to say as much.
Baronvonrort wrote:There was a study in Tasmania which put shooting by contract shooters as the cheapest option compared to poisoning etc,i will find it later and post it.
Turtleburp wrote:In the paper so it must be true...
Compare this to starting up a towing business - the $7,150 includes, buying a truck, advertising and persuading the missus to take calls (no small cost) - if asked how much to tow your first vehicle what would you quote?
Here are some quotes that I would take to the bank:
But if no one gets behind it it's doomed anyway
It should also be pointed out that these ground shooting operations are the last step in a pest control program of baiting, trapping and aerial shooting. No mention of the cost of those. Perhaps the high cost and low animal count is more a reflection of the success of these other operations.
- or provision of a comparison cost by species-
the guys running the SPC program are all experienced hunters,shooters and pest controllers and not the stereotypical semi hippy university educated ranger I was expecting
Where Chronos is wrong though...
In fact it seems the very parks selected for the three year trial were chosen because of their difficult access and the failure of other program's to irradiate goats in particular
NO ONE WANTS RADIOACTIVE GOATS