drone wrote:Wm, savage mod 99 22 Hi Power from 1919.
Ammo is the catch 22, not made stateside anymore, Norma, PPU and S&B and RWS I think have an occasional run of 5.6x52R which is the metricated size.
Biggest PITA is the bore size 0.227" needs 0.228" diameter bullets, I have a few hundred of S&B 70 grain bullets and a couple boxes of original Winchester superspeed (marked 30/- per box which dates them back to the sixties at the latest) that'll give me a total of about 100 cases,I'm also using a set of the correct redding dies to form the brass from 30/30 cases of which I have many.
I had some issues with the indexing of the magazine but I'm on top of that now,
I was range testing on the 8th June with both factory ammo and my work up loads using CFE 223 and I can report, slightly tongue in cheek, that the results were "encouraging" ie I got the buggers on the paper, that was on a silhouette range from 100 to 400,I could hit the 100 and 200 but the longerranges are beyond my geriatric eyes.
As you may see from the images the finish is finished and needs refreshing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NLQEmwAvo4 is a link to a you tube tutorial I'm going to follow.
I'll update my journey with it but bits will be irregular.
drone wrote:Bladeracer, I'd tried using teflon plumbers tape to wrap 224 diameter bullets, it's not at all difficult all you have to remember is wrap them so the rifling tries to tighten the wrap, measure so it doesn't get to fat and slightly expand the case mouth to ease the wrapped end into the case without stripping the wrapping off. I haven't shot those yet, that comes this weekend.
drone wrote:1st off, many thanks for your interest, I find it really stimulating. Some of the solutions suggested I'd thought about and discounted for a couple of reasons, except the one re honing out an undersized boolit sizing die, I actually bought a 0.228" tungsten carbide tipped reamer and am waiting for the lee 0.225 sizing die to get tome to ascertain if the TC is harder than the lee die.
I'll share with you some of the ideas still under consideration before going on to the final solution.
MP Dies sell both a 229 sizer and a 4 cavity die at 0.227. This is a fairly expensive solution and time consuming in that I have to both cast the boolits then powder coat them then size them. The cost for the dies, mold and postage from Czech republic is circa 135 GBP, quite an outlay.
My final solution is to pay a British foundry, Shellhouse Castings, for them to hard cast 55 grain boolits that fall from the mold at 0.2265" (he measured a large sample) and 55 grains weight, then powder coat these.
In the past this added about 1.5 thousands of an inch to the diameter. These can go straight into the reloading process for 30 GBP per 250, a considerable saving.
I'm quite happy with the lighter boolit as it means less powder and this, also, is a big issue as all the data that I can find has old powders that I no longer have (Rl 7 was a good one and I've literally just used the last of my 1990 stache).
Currently I'm using CFE 223 and working up but at some point I'll have to change stream and use a different one. Those I currently have ample supplies of and which are in the same burning range as one of the "old" brews are Lovex D073.5, Hodgdons Hlever and those that are freely available to buy are Ram TAC and Vihtavuouri N-130. There are somepistolpowders that I can use in place of Unique viz Hodgdons Universal and Lovex D036 plus I have about a pound of 2400. I suppose the issue is that each of these will require working up tofind both a safe and accurate level.
There, I've spilled my guts to you all and you have my full SP now, any comments you have will be greatfully received and considered.
bladeracer wrote:Yep, just hone out a Lee die with some sandpaper on a split rod in a drill. Keep pushing bullets through and measuring or test firing them until you get to where you want to be. I'd go for .228" or even .229" but the rifle might have a preference. Or just buy some 7/8"-14tpi black bolts and make sizing dies from scratch.
I have a very old .227" bullet mould that I believe was made for the Hi-Power. But CBE offers .228" moulds - https://www.castbulletengineering.com.au/products/rifle-moulds/228-cal
Powdercoating I find is quicker than tumble-lubing, and you can start loading ammo right away, you don't have to wait for lube to dry. While you are casting bullets when you have a good fist full, toss them in a tub with the powder, shake for a minute, dump into a tray and pop them into the oven for twenty minutes while you continue casting more bullets. In twenty minutes pull them out and toss in another handful - really doesn't add much time at all. I would avoid sizing unless you have to, test shoot them and see how they go first. I would also push a slug through the bore to be sure of it's dimensions before ordering a mould. It's very easy to make fat bullets skinny, not so easy making skinny bullets fatter - more coats of PC might get your there.
You don't need load data for the cartridge, work up your own using modern powders that you can get. Donnelley's Cartridge Conversions lists the capacity as 36.7gn H2O, about 6-8gn less than the .223Rem, so just start with .223 data (.223 appears to be a slightly more potent cartridge but they're pretty close). I would use AR2206H (H4895), but AR2207 (H4198) or AR2208 (Varget) would also be good choices. I wouldn't bother with pistol powders unless you're wanting to load heavily-reduced loads.
Your biggest problem might be getting large rifle primers.drone wrote:1st off, many thanks for your interest, I find it really stimulating. Some of the solutions suggested I'd thought about and discounted for a couple of reasons, except the one re honing out an undersized boolit sizing die, I actually bought a 0.228" tungsten carbide tipped reamer and am waiting for the lee 0.225 sizing die to get tome to ascertain if the TC is harder than the lee die.
I'll share with you some of the ideas still under consideration before going on to the final solution.
MP Dies sell both a 229 sizer and a 4 cavity die at 0.227. This is a fairly expensive solution and time consuming in that I have to both cast the boolits then powder coat them then size them. The cost for the dies, mold and postage from Czech republic is circa 135 GBP, quite an outlay.
My final solution is to pay a British foundry, Shellhouse Castings, for them to hard cast 55 grain boolits that fall from the mold at 0.2265" (he measured a large sample) and 55 grains weight, then powder coat these.
In the past this added about 1.5 thousands of an inch to the diameter. These can go straight into the reloading process for 30 GBP per 250, a considerable saving.
I'm quite happy with the lighter boolit as it means less powder and this, also, is a big issue as all the data that I can find has old powders that I no longer have (Rl 7 was a good one and I've literally just used the last of my 1990 stache).
Currently I'm using CFE 223 and working up but at some point I'll have to change stream and use a different one. Those I currently have ample supplies of and which are in the same burning range as one of the "old" brews are Lovex D073.5, Hodgdons Hlever and those that are freely available to buy are Ram TAC and Vihtavuouri N-130. There are somepistolpowders that I can use in place of Unique viz Hodgdons Universal and Lovex D036 plus I have about a pound of 2400. I suppose the issue is that each of these will require working up tofind both a safe and accurate level.
There, I've spilled my guts to you all and you have my full SP now, any comments you have will be greatfully received and considered.
drone wrote:I'm actually well stocked with LR Primers, and, as I've invested in some 308 brass with SR Primers, I only have my 30/30 and 22 HP to service. I have nearly twice as many SRP as I have LRP and I've 2500 of those.
With regard to powder, I have several available to me, some of which I have a large stock of, Hodgdon's HLvr and Lovex D073.5 both of which approximate to the burn rate of Win 748 which is one of the recommended powders from days of Yore.
I intend to start small and work up with the Lovex as it seems to provide a less pronounced second pressure peak than Hlvr and especially CFE 223 which I've been using up til now.
Most of the powder in our neck of the woods seems to be ending up in Ukraine, especially the single based stuff which I wondered about, apparently the single based powders ignite more readily than double based in really cold weather which happens a lot in Ukrainian winters, double based ball powder tends to be more stable in temperate times (like their summers) who'd have thought eh?
As an aside we get many Ukrainians being trained on our ranges in SE England, they truly are a people's army.
When we see the British Swaddies they are all young men and women, not so the Ukes, all ages. We noticed some with grey hair and beer bellies (which you definitely don't see in the Brits) last weekend all with Kalashnikov rifles and 7.62 cal LMGs.
I have a huge amount of respect for them they are defending their lifestyle from Socialism whilst our electorate seems bound to be voting them in.