petition for albo to resign

[womble]

That’s a different poll I didn’t include Billo.
But that’s just how people are here in Australia. Decades of brainwashing and given that narrative through the media.
Social engineering. It’s part of our national identity now.

It’s easy to lose sight of perspective of that in our own click because it’s not how we live our lives. But for anyone who doesn’t shoot and has no involvement, we’re out of sight and out of mind. As was intended to continue to dilute us from the population.

What’s happening here in Australia is bigger than us. It is the global agenda. And I’m not being a conspiracist. The only outlier is the US.
But we are the most important battleground. Because we are the new country on the block. A country where liberals and conservatives formed an alliance to govern. A global first.
Protectionists and Abolitionists decided to conspire together on how to best manage the working class.
And that’s not to say we haven’t had a powerful labour movement right from the start. The shearers and miners. But it’s always been carefully managed and is to this day. The old wealth still has us in shackles only by other means.
We weren’t spawn from revolution.
We were planted here a hundred years after the age of revolution.
And short of revolution this is how we will remain.

For a short time the liberals got a bit too liberal. Whitlam and Fraser remained close friends for life.

But Howard ended that.
Howard is wise and cunning. He is a very intelligent man. I think his pep talk to the liberals was once again intended to keep us on this path.
And that’s why they voted aligned with labor.
They know a nationalist block will arise. But it will be too minor to be of consequence.
And they will manage it carefully. The illusion of hope is important. They will foster that. But if they ever need to cut it down to size again, they will.

Anyway. I wonder if they’ve miscalculated this time. Queensland will be very interesting.. This is the only state where liberals and nationals are the same government, not a coalition.
They have a chance to bite. And I hope they do .

[bigrich]

Sorry guys I have not signed the pedophile albo petition but I will do it right now. I always thought howard was the biggest pedophile Australian PM but albo is close behind. Just scum bags. The bottom of the barrel. Pedophiles, howard and albo. Can not get any lower as a human than those 3 categories.

Apparently 82% of One Nation voters support this legislation

Ur still the minority

i'd take those figures with a grain of salt . changes to stop non citizens from being licensed and better background checks , yeah . but not what minns has done . i suspect those figures have been put out there as a propaganda tool by the MSM . the context of those figures is the important part

[womble]

The context holds no weight, when as said above, the people don’t even know what the laws are.
Only that they support them.

It’s 50/50 with one nation.
They dropped us like a hot potato after the NRA scandal..
That very nearly destroyed them. They only rebuilt by targeting new demographics.
And not mainstream ones. Only the fringes.

What percentage of shooters here would want any association with the NRA. Minuscule. It would end us.
It would be a final solution for us. Extinction.
One Nation are forever tainted by that. That is most unfortunate.

Less than 10% of American gun owners are NRA nowadays. They are that deplorable. They do far more harm than good.
They serve us up to the antis on a platter.

[bigrich]

The context holds no weight, when as said above, the people don’t even know what the laws are.
Only that they support them.

It’s 50/50 with one nation.
They dropped us like a hot potato after the NRA scandal..
That very nearly destroyed them. They only rebuilt by targeting new demographics.
And not mainstream ones. Only the fringes.

What percentage of shooters here would want any association with the NRA. Minuscule. It would end us.
It would be a final solution for us. Extinction.
One Nation are forever tainted by that. That is most unfortunate.

Less than 10% of American gun owners are NRA nowadays. They are that deplorable. They do far more harm than good.
They serve us up to the antis on a platter.

well , your entitled to your opinions mate , they differ to mine . it's all well and good to have opinions and views on a forum , but the railroading of nsw shooters is a call to action . talking about it does nothing, achieves nothing .

i've contributed $100 to shooters union fighting fund which is going towards legal eagles to fight and lobby on the behalf of QLD shooters, and will do so again .shooters have to put their money where their mouth is in this regard . hmmm , carton of beer or fighting to keep my guns and lifestyle . easy decision for me . talking to everyone i encounter about labours gross failings , easy . they've given me a lot to work with

[womble]

Agreed .
It has to be said that one nation goes above the majors on any ballot.
I don’t think all shooters will align with them. But nevertheless the majors have far worse intentions for us.
Everyone I’ve talked to without exception sees this as an injustice on farmers and recreational, sporting shooters.
It wasn’t fair and just treatment.
My money is going to the legal challenges ahead when we’ve established the right avenue. Perhaps through the commonwealth ombudsman. But still under discussion.
There’s possibly a constitutional challenge also in the right to appeal.

QLD is the one to watch. That will be the decider. If they want uniform gun laws and QLD does not concede, then that effectively puts us back before the NFA.
A huge embarrassment for them.
People have hope for the NT also, but unfortunately there is none. A territory has no sovereignty from the federal government. Only states do.
I believe Victoria will fall in line unfortunately.

[bigrich]

Agreed .
It has to be said that one nation goes above the majors on any ballot.
I don’t think all shooters will align with them. But nevertheless the majors have far worse intentions for us.
Everyone I’ve talked to without exception sees this as an injustice on farmers and recreational, sporting shooters.
It wasn’t fair and just treatment.
My money is going to the legal challenges ahead when we’ve established the right avenue. Perhaps through the commonwealth ombudsman. But still under discussion.
There’s possibly a constitutional challenge also in the right to appeal.

QLD is the one to watch. That will be the decider. If they want uniform gun laws and QLD does not concede, then that effectively puts us back before the NFA.
A huge embarrassment for them.
People have hope for the NT also, but unfortunately there is none. A territory has no sovereignty from the federal government. Only states do.
I believe Victoria will fall in line unfortunately.

i agree . minns doing away with the right to appeal goes against the foundation of a democracy and against the westminster system we use . i have no doubt there's a battle brewing over this, with support from other sections of the community

[womble]

we don’t have rights. But we do have law.

[bigrich]

i just checked , and the petition is over 318 000 ,and climbing

https://c.org/PNmTpfp7QS

and this isn't the only one i've signed . there's another calling for burke and wong to resign as well

just checked again , it's now over 328, 000 . if it reaches over 400,000 apparently the GG has to officially consider it . if you haven't signed this one please do

up to 363,000 now

[womble]

I think it’s on the cards for him. Petition aside, his popularity ratings are in the negatives. By their own polling.
He will have to step aside. No one is bigger than the party.