Petition against the rushed new firearm laws proposition

[9.3x64]

............And when you are shown how it's done what are going to do then?

Dude, you do realise you have less than 2 days to do something. It's all about balance of power and Minns has it with the support of the Greens.

That's what happened in WA as Labor had absolute control of both houses so no matter what was done, even the largest ever WA petition (we tried) it was all totally ignored.

Then we need to hit the Federal MP’s.

[mchughcb]

............And when you are shown how it's done what are going to do then?

Dude, you do realise you have less than 2 days to do something. It's all about balance of power and Minns has it with the support of the Greens.

That's what happened in WA as Labor had absolute control of both houses so no matter what was done, even the largest ever WA petition (we tried) it was all totally ignored.

Yeah, which is why I spent the best part of yesterday researching and writing to every MP in Victoria. Just got my second reply back from a national mp. They don't support what nsw is doing.

[Finniss]

https://firearmfairness.com.au/#sign-the-petition

Came across this petition by the nationals today.

[alexjones]

One things Jews have historically done is only spend their money in other jewish business. This keeps money circulating in their community.

I feel like if the entire 1 million gun owners only spent their money in gun friendly businesses we could become an even more powerful voting block. Avoid spending money in business that hate us.

It is a hard task but doable if we have some kind of greater network. We just need to be unified!

[Finniss]

Who's on your list to avoid Alex?

Virgin Airlines won't carry hunting trophies.
Jetboil were anti hunting despite selling camouflage products but checking today have hunters on their Facebook so stance changed perhaps....still not getting my money.
The big 4 banks were closing accounts and refusing loans to gun shop employees during the height of wokeness
Paypal are anti gun but tricky to avoid.

[alexjones]

I avoid coon cheese because they changed the name to cheer cheese.

[bigrich]

https://firearmfairness.com.au/#sign-the-petition

Came across this petition by the nationals today.

thanks for posting , signed

[bigrich]

I avoid coon cheese because they changed the name to cheer cheese.

i remember arnott's "gollywog" biscuits

[alexjones]

I avoid coon cheese because they changed the name to cheer cheese.

i remember arnott's "gollywog" biscuits

Those were good. Thanks I forgot about them.

[Wapiti]

Guys, this is a petition from Bridgitte McKenzie of the Nats, asking for people to sign another online petition.
I got it because of my association with orgs I belong to, some of you may have too.
There are already over 35,000 signatures.

It's for the Vic Govt, to try and stop them bringing in similar restrictions there that have been secretly being organised in quiet. Please sign. It's easy.

https://firearmfairness.com.au/?mc_cid= ... 2dbb0d48c6

[Maxy]

But moreso for those of you here that were very vocal towards us in WA at that time sadly it's now your turn to show us how it should have been be done !!!!

Well said old Mate. The shoe is on the other foot now. We copped some stick when WA went through all this.
I do wish them well and support them but it is almost impossible if the lefties have the power in both houses of Parlament.
Vote Labor OUT!!

[Wapiti]

Who's on your list to avoid Alex?

Virgin Airlines won't carry hunting trophies.
Jetboil were anti hunting despite selling camouflage products but checking today have hunters on their Facebook so stance changed perhaps....still not getting my money.
The big 4 banks were closing accounts and refusing loans to gun shop employees during the height of wokeness
Paypal are anti gun but tricky to avoid.

Local gun shop says that they are having to plead their case why their business loan shouldn't be wound up, due to "guns" not being within supposed community tolerance expectaions and no future for firearms going forward. ????
Also apparently the large business insurers have told them firearms are not acceptable products to be associated with. We saw this with the last SSAA firearms insurers too.
No dramas not using Paypal, I refuse for many years after their supposedly "secure" payment company was hacked and someone went on a spending spree with my money, and Paypal wouldn't compensate me.
Never had an issue buying anything for delivery remotely either, using any debit cards. Visa/Mastercard.
Last people I was required to use Paypal for sent me a direct deposit invoice, that was a good size order from AtlasWorx in WA, the owner reconned that many of us refuse to use Paypal so has rejigged his payment options.
Work around it, it's easy.

[bigrich]

Guys, this is a petition from Bridgitte McKenzie of the Nats, asking for people to sign another online petition.
I got it because of my association with orgs I belong to, some of you may have too.
There are already over 35,000 signatures.

It's for the Vic Govt, to try and stop them bringing in similar restrictions there that have been secretly being organised in quiet. Please sign. It's easy.

https://firearmfairness.com.au/?mc_cid= ... 2dbb0d48c6

Finniss beat you too it mate , i've already signed

[Wapiti]

Excellent. Hope everyone else that's amounted to the total views on this page have too as well.

[Finniss]

Nice to be able to sign it as an interstater and also be able to have a say. Hopefully leaving comments gives the pollies some knowledge and ammo to use against the nonsense.

Just noticed on the news a Gaza/hatespeech laws protest happening in Sydney...so far Police not interfering.. guess that means shooters can have an unpermitted rally too.

[No1_49er]

For the good folk of Queensland, there's an on-line petition here https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work- ... ls/4378-26

The text of that petition reads: -

TO: The Honourable the Speaker and Members of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland

The Petition of residents of the State of Queensland draws to the attention of the House that Queensland Weapons License holders are subject to rigorous background checks, ongoing compliance requirements, and strict regulatory oversight.

Acts of violence with people using firearms, and subsequent statements made in public discourse have, at times, created an implication that licensed firearms ownership is connected with terrorism and/or criminal activity. That somehow the firearm has caused the violence (for example in the case of the recent Bondi shootings). Unsubstantiated illiterate commentary from biased based sources will not help in the reduction of bias crime in our community. Such implications mislead the public, undermining evidence-based policy debate, and unfairly associating law-abiding citizens with criminal, extremist or terrorist conduct which law abiding Australians completely and actively reject.

Law abiding firearms owners support stronger oversight of terrorist and criminal activities and we support stronger penalties for terrorist and criminal acts.

Your petitioners, therefore, request the House to:

1. Refrain from classifying, describing, or regulating licensed, law-abiding firearms owners in a manner that associates them with terrorism or extremist activity; and
2. Ensure that firearms policy and legislation is proportionate, evidence-based, and clearly distinguishes licensed firearms owners from criminal or terrorist actors.

Do as you feel you must.

[bigrich]

For the good folk of Queensland, there's an on-line petition here https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work- ... ls/4378-26

The text of that petition reads: -

TO: The Honourable the Speaker and Members of the Legislative Assembly of Queensland

The Petition of residents of the State of Queensland draws to the attention of the House that Queensland Weapons License holders are subject to rigorous background checks, ongoing compliance requirements, and strict regulatory oversight.

Acts of violence with people using firearms, and subsequent statements made in public discourse have, at times, created an implication that licensed firearms ownership is connected with terrorism and/or criminal activity. That somehow the firearm has caused the violence (for example in the case of the recent Bondi shootings). Unsubstantiated illiterate commentary from biased based sources will not help in the reduction of bias crime in our community. Such implications mislead the public, undermining evidence-based policy debate, and unfairly associating law-abiding citizens with criminal, extremist or terrorist conduct which law abiding Australians completely and actively reject.

Law abiding firearms owners support stronger oversight of terrorist and criminal activities and we support stronger penalties for terrorist and criminal acts.

Your petitioners, therefore, request the House to:

1. Refrain from classifying, describing, or regulating licensed, law-abiding firearms owners in a manner that associates them with terrorism or extremist activity; and
2. Ensure that firearms policy and legislation is proportionate, evidence-based, and clearly distinguishes licensed firearms owners from criminal or terrorist actors.

Do as you feel you must.

sign it, i must . bit disappointing theirs not more signatures . hopefully numbers will increase

[bigrich]

they'll be banning bows and arrows, sticks and stones next

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ocialshare

[alexjones]

I started acquiring bows and arrows in 2021 after that muslim killed 5 people in Norway. Remember that? Was brutal. I thought they would regulate them but they never did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsberg_attack

[bigrich]

I started acquiring bows and arrows in 2021 after that muslim killed 5 people in Norway. Remember that? Was brutal. I thought they would regulate them but they never did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsberg_attack

i used to have a crossbow or two until they became regulated had cheapy fibreglass recurve bows and do archery in the backyard as a kid . big backyard , couldn't do that these days

[Finniss]

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/get-i ... sultation/

For Victorians.

[bigrich]

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/get-involved/petitions/reject-changes-to-firearms-legislation-without-proper-consultation/

For Victorians.

great work posting petitions and keeping everyone up to date and informed Finniss , keep it up mate

[Finniss]

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/get-involved/petitions/reject-changes-to-firearms-legislation-without-proper-consultation/

For Victorians.

great work posting petitions and keeping everyone up to date and informed Finniss , keep it up mate

Just bumping into em Rich. I dont have facebook so here and direct to people is my only share pathway.

I reckon if these petitions dont get decent numbers they can be used against us.

[No1_49er]

Some of the on-line petitions, whilst well intended, can have unintended consequences.
Consider this one https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work- ... ls/4385-26
There are undoubtedly many new citizens of Australia who will have jumped through many hoops to gain a firearms licence in their former country of residence/citizenship. Perhaps even more rigorous than in Aus. What of our "brothers" from the likes of the UK, NZ, etc. Are they going to be subject to a five year exclusion? If so, what does that say about transnational police collaboration?

[Wapiti]

Yes...... but isn't everyone jumping up and down because of the Wiembilla incident? The national firarm registry? Same thing?
I dunno, you tell me.

A more sensible or sane system would be for all the so-called experts in the individual states weapons licensing sections to actually do nation-wide checks on new applicants? How many state/territories? So only few phone calls. Cops or pseudo-cops doing actual background checks in each state like all the major employers do in this country? Maybe public servants held to account with some performance measures like every other business that pours taxes into funding these failures that don't do their jobs.

No, blame the citizens that have nothing to do with it...

[Finniss]

Some of the on-line petitions, whilst well intended, can have unintended consequences.
Consider this one https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work- ... ls/4385-26
There are undoubtedly many new citizens of Australia who will have jumped through many hoops to gain a firearms licence in their former country of residence/citizenship. Perhaps even more rigorous than in Aus. What of our "brothers" from the likes of the UK, NZ, etc. Are they going to be subject to a five year exclusion? If so, what does that say about transnational police collaboration?

I think the only non citizens who shouldn't be able to obtain a licence are those without a suitable police force or security agency in their previous countries for our agencies to liaise with for the applicants records. A blanket ban doesn't make sense apart from it being the easiest option.

[Zappa]

Some of the on-line petitions, whilst well intended, can have unintended consequences.
Consider this one https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Work- ... ls/4385-26
There are undoubtedly many new citizens of Australia who will have jumped through many hoops to gain a firearms licence in their former country of residence/citizenship. Perhaps even more rigorous than in Aus. What of our "brothers" from the likes of the UK, NZ, etc. Are they going to be subject to a five year exclusion? If so, what does that say about transnational police collaboration?

I think the only non citizens who shouldn't be able to obtain a licence are those without a suitable police force or security agency in their previous countries for our agencies to liaise with for the applicants records. A blanket ban doesn't make sense apart from it being the easiest option.

While a sound idea, I wouldn't believe many "papers" or comms that come from the Indian authorities for instance. I speak from experience as a past hiring manager.
The medical practitioner industry have the same sentiment.

[Finniss]

Yep, trusted countries list would be pretty small.

[Wapiti]

Just saw on the news that Albanese scum is suggesting a one-off levy of all taxpayers to fund the "Stealback" of firearms... the issue is that so far, NT and QLD are refusing to fund the activist slime's smokescreen for his life failures... and the other states that are stabbing their firearm owners in the back are squealing that they don't want to fund it all by themselves...
Whereas QLD and NT say, f**k off, we say it's bogus so fund it yourselves...

So the activist socialists have come up with another way to sell it...They reckon that because this will make the participating communities safer, the communities should pay for the stealback to make themselves feel somewhat safer...
Buy your own safety from the government supposed to do it in their job description... is there no limit to how low politicians can go?

Watch the Gaybor states squeal... the Feds will just raise the Medicare levy again and force those living in the states who voted for politicians with brains to also pay for the states that installed thieves.

[Zappa]

Albo never ceases to amaze. Turning the public against the firearm industry by hitting their hip pocket.