NSW Government to introduce toughest gun law reforms in a ge

[bigrich]

Look I must confess, and this isn't personal to anyone, is that being generally optimistic is exactly the opposite of what's needed.

It's a mask for people to sit back and do SFA, because they want to keep any perceived scrutiny from themselves.
The disarmament agenda carries on when people use this as an excuse for doing nothing. Sorry if this offends anyone, but one fact of being human is that when it's true it offends them as the truth hurts, those who use this as an excuse are the enemy within.

For me, it would be easy to be like everyone else on the land to throw urban based shooters under the bus and just draw a line between us.
As MOST (from both sides) do. Take sides. This is their evil plan.
Until they want something. Then it's all sweetness.

These evil socialist politicians have done this now, separated farmers from city shooters with the firearm limits. Don't believe me?
Searching comments on the net already show their agenda is working - I see on open gun forums city shooters are denigrating farmers for Albanese's back-door boys' distinction between us all. "pricks have 10 guns, we only get 4" "they've backstabbed us"
Bullsh*t, this is a definite splitting agenda and far out, people need to switch their brains on.

Even Sun Tsu said this 2000 years ago- basically separate your factions by stealth, jealousy and weaken them, and you will always win.

all fair points mate , and sun tsu was basically using common sense and logic to achieve his objectives with shrewd planning and fore thought. all pretty rare things in this modern world . having grown up before the internet and mobile phones, i really think society has dumbed down and is easily manipulated these days . as you rightly point out a unified ,organised shooters front would change things for the better , instead of the petty behaviour that some carry on with . i believe "divide and conquer" was used by Julius Caeser and rome in general to great effect .

i prefer to take positive action on this topic , as well as try to find the silver lining in the cloud through optimism and a positive attitude . being optimistic is what drives me to travel, hunt and shoot , being a hard core realist is depressing and can push some to give shooting away thinking "what's the point, we're screwed ". a negative , defeatist attitude can make you lose before you've even tried . i also tell myself one day the "right now" will be the "good old days" , so i try to make the most of the present

[Fester]

Look I must confess, and this isn't personal to anyone, is that being generally optimistic is exactly the opposite of what's needed.

It's a mask for people to sit back and do SFA, because they want to keep any perceived scrutiny from themselves.
The disarmament agenda carries on when people use this as an excuse for doing nothing. Sorry if this offends anyone, but one fact of being human is that when it's true it offends them as the truth hurts, those who use this as an excuse are the enemy within.

For me, it would be easy to be like everyone else on the land to throw urban based shooters under the bus and just draw a line between us.
As MOST (from both sides) do. Take sides. This is their evil plan.
Until they want something. Then it's all sweetness.

These evil socialist politicians have done this now, separated farmers from city shooters with the firearm limits. Don't believe me?
Searching comments on the net already show their agenda is working - I see on open gun forums city shooters are denigrating farmers for Albanese's back-door boys' distinction between us all. "pricks have 10 guns, we only get 4" "they've backstabbed us"
Bullsh*t, this is a definite splitting agenda and far out, people need to switch their brains on.

Even Sun Tsu said this 2000 years ago- basically separate your factions by stealth, jealousy and weaken them, and you will always win.

Too right, mate.

It's the same every time.
Don't worry, farmers, we are not coming for you.
Even the target shooters get a hint that they are OK.
I love shooting, hunting, and variety.
I put all 3 reasons on my licence, as I knew that if any circumstance changes, they can only tick a reason from my licence, not rock up and take my guns, then fight it in the NCAT for months or years.
No more NCAT; this really is the start of the end.

I know from personal experience how the NSW FAR operate, and it was before this latest attack, the Bondi diversion.
The FAR have been taking gun licenses off ex-military for years.
Ex police are copping it.
Anyone who ticks the disability pension box for free PTAs etc.

I was forced into early retirement due to a bad back and got included in their "TRIAL" to need a doctor's letter in case I could turn into a mentally retarded insane violent killer, a bit like the terrorists, really.
The questions the doctor must answer to assure them you are fit to use, handle, transport, and store firearms safely and competently are designed to deter many doctors from participating, no getting a new doctor as they want years of treating.
I could have lost my license had it not been for finding a great doctor some years back, a young black girl, and the best GP I have ever met, apart from being determined to try and find some sort of cancer in me.

The fact that shooters are still fighting each other as mentioned, with club Fudd types going all out to help us do the "Divided we fell" thing just astounds me.

Like Aussie Reviews put out so many years ago in "The Last Australian Shooter" vid
In the end, when there is nothing left to come for, they will come for Elmer's Omark and single-shot .22lr.

If the farmers, who also thought, "It won't affect me," well, look out, as they then just throw some money into sponsoring pest control contractors to do your farm kills as well.

Within about 6 years, we are in a mess, overtaken by out-of-control pests, natives on the decline, farmland destroyed, public lands locked up to breed weeds and ferals.

What a mess we are headed for, and fast, with this woke como/ green govt.
Sad days indeed.

Only One Nation can force change now.
NSW voters need to vote carefully, and under the line, just do the minimum 10 or whatever picks for your own preferences to work for you.
We need to try and keep those SFFP blokes in their seats as no one else is really fighting for our single issue.
It all just depends who is going up for your seat, but we all know who to put 1 and 2, also 8,9,and Greenslime.

[No1_49er]

In all of the preceding discussion I have not seen ANY mention of those folk who have "Firearm Collector Licences".
I know a few who probably have (had) extraordinary collections that are probably of the order of a hundred or more. Yeah, some people collect stamps, and teaspoons
What has become of those poor souls, who have invested huge sums of money in sometimes priceless inanimate objects, which said licence prohibits them from using.

[Wapiti]

Latest Shooters Union video on the pathetic crap from the NSW tiny man. Albanese's "Puppet" as Graham Park describes him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egA2im104uU

[Fester]

All those details are not yet released, as they have NFI, and have to think them up as they go.
Rushed legislation with no details.
Now some stage 1 regulations, with the buyback announcement, and half price compensation.
It is also a mess.
Collectors, and about 1,000 other details to come, but don't expect any of it to include any logic, or good.