Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by KWhorenet » 23 Jun 2015, 1:36 am

brett1868 wrote::D I should be right for Buffalo with 13000 fpe :lol:


Is that at the muzzle or at 1.8 nautical miles :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by wrenchman » 23 Jun 2015, 5:50 am

The 45/70 can be real good if you hand load or buy premium rounds most 45/70 rounds are loaded light we have lots of old guns loaded for the 45/70 that should not be shot with modern rounds.
I have a friend who hunts with it and has hunted Africa with it I didn't think much of it till then.
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Techc » 29 Jun 2015, 3:17 pm

KWhorenet wrote:Is that at the muzzle or at 1.8 nautical miles :lol:


Hunting sea buffalo? :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Franky » 29 Jun 2015, 7:42 pm

Did anyone else consider using a 204 I hear there's not much they can't do?
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Die Judicii » 29 Jun 2015, 7:51 pm

Franky wrote:Did anyone else consider using a 204 I hear there's not much they can't do?


Most probably way too much recoil for most,,,, :sarcasm:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Noisydad » 29 Jun 2015, 9:49 pm

Definitely think about the venerable .45-70, they were used to wipe the buffalo herds in the US in the late 1860's and they were loaded with black powder too!
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by KWhorenet » 29 Jun 2015, 9:59 pm

Franky wrote:Did anyone else consider using a 204 I hear there's not much they can't do?


As subtle as a 505 Gibbs.

Would a .204 be ok if it was in a T3?
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Oldbloke » 29 Jun 2015, 10:35 pm

Noisydad wrote:Definitely think about the venerable .45-70, they were used to wipe the buffalo herds in the US in the late 1860's and they were loaded with black powder too!


Might do the job, but arnt the yank bison about half the size of our buffs? Just asking :D
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by bigfellascott » 29 Jun 2015, 11:07 pm

Franky wrote:Did anyone else consider using a 204 I hear there's not much they can't do?


Only if they have a DBM, those internal mags aren't safe for idiots to use. :D :thumbsup:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by sandgroperbill » 29 Jun 2015, 11:38 pm

.375 cheytac. Should do the job.
I would love to be able to justify a .375 cheytac to wapol...
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by brett1868 » 30 Jun 2015, 12:19 am

sandgroperbill wrote:.375 cheytac. Should do the job.
I would love to be able to justify a .375 cheytac to wapol...


Just list "Drop Bears" as the justification...we all know how lethal they can be and you need the additional range and firepower to dispatch them in a humane manner from a safe distance.

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Problem is there's not much of a choice of projectiles on the market suitable for .375 Cheytac, 350Gr SMK's or 350Gr Woodleigh VLD's are about all there is in Australia. Best use the SMK's for drop bears but wear a raincoat if under 50m or you'll get splattered with body parts. I've spent the best part of the past 2 nights prepping 100 cases ready for loading Wednesday night after I prep the projectiles tomorrow night. I'm hoping with all the prep work put in with the brass and projectiles will finally bring my 5 shot 5" groups down another inch or more. I'm curious how well the SMK's dispatch the giant Pilliga bunnies or bush chickens when I get up bush this weekend. Apparently there's been some drop bears spotted near my place so I'll be packing a half inch just in case of attack :)
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Chronos » 30 Jun 2015, 7:38 am

Oldbloke wrote:
Noisydad wrote:Definitely think about the venerable .45-70, they were used to wipe the buffalo herds in the US in the late 1860's and they were loaded with black powder too!


Might do the job, but arnt the yank bison about half the size of our buffs? Just asking :D


Never seen one up close have you? :lol:

Bison are about as big as Bovines get. Bigger and heavier than cape buff and even our water buff

Nearly 2m tall and 1500kg they are huge but not as cranky and dangerous Cape buffalo but you gave to remember when the great herds were nearly wiped out by black powder cartridges back in the day they were driven on horse back to near exhaustion before being shot with little regard to humane kills and not shot on foot one on one like you would hunt a water buffalo or scrub bull these days. There's s reason the dangerous game cartridges were so popular in Africa.

That said there are plenty of blokes taking buff and bull with bows but a broad head driven hard will penetrate deep and create a large wound channel

Like I said earlier in this thread I'd start at .338WM and go up. Basically id take anything from the Sako Brownbear range ;)

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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Title_II » 30 Jun 2015, 8:25 am

Chronos wrote:
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Noisydad wrote:Definitely think about the venerable .45-70, they were used to wipe the buffalo herds in the US in the late 1860's and they were loaded with black powder too!


Might do the job, but arnt the yank bison about half the size of our buffs? Just asking :D


Never seen one up close have you? :lol:

Bison are about as big as Bovines get. Bigger and heavier than cape buff and even our water buff


Our weewees are much bigger than yours as well :)
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by bigfellascott » 30 Jun 2015, 8:51 am

Good ol 303 should still get the job done no worries (least it did in the ol days) :unknown:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Chronos » 30 Jun 2015, 8:55 am

Title_II wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:
Noisydad wrote:Definitely think about the venerable .45-70, they were used to wipe the buffalo herds in the US in the late 1860's and they were loaded with black powder too!


Might do the job, but arnt the yank bison about half the size of our buffs? Just asking :D


Never seen one up close have you? :lol:

Bison are about as big as Bovines get. Bigger and heavier than cape buff and even our water buff


Our weewees are much bigger than yours as well :)


:lol:

Only on average :friends:

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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Spooner » 01 Jul 2015, 2:20 pm

Chronos wrote:Bison are about as big as Bovines get. Bigger and heavier than cape buff and even our water buff


You seen the Indian Gaur?

The size of the chest/shoulders/back on some of those bulls is insane.

Like a battering ram in 4 tiny poles for legs.
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by bigfellascott » 01 Jul 2015, 3:25 pm

Spooner wrote:
Chronos wrote:Bison are about as big as Bovines get. Bigger and heavier than cape buff and even our water buff


You seen the Indian Gaur?

The size of the chest/shoulders/back on some of those bulls is insane.

Like a battering ram in 4 tiny poles for legs.


You'd want a good solid cal to knock them bastards over, have a go at the muscle on em! :shock:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Franky » 01 Jul 2015, 7:42 pm

What about a 35 wheelen or a 460 Weatherby mag heres a load for you guys that will stop a truck little lone a Buff

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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Oldbloke » 01 Jul 2015, 8:07 pm

So did the google. Not much in it
US Bison up to 1000kg
Water Buffalo up to 1200kg.

nah nah, ours is bigger than yours. :clap: :thumbsup:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by SendIt » 02 Jul 2015, 11:30 am

Franky wrote:What about a 35 wheelen or a 460 Weatherby mag heres a load for you guys that will stop a truck little lone a Buff


35 Whelan, hmmm... I think I'd be feeling a bit under-gunned holding that and staring at big bull.
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Davies » 02 Jul 2015, 11:32 am

bigfellascott wrote:You'd want a good solid cal to knock them bastards over, have a go at the muscle on em! :shock:


This guy looks like he's on the roids :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Chronos » 03 Jul 2015, 10:11 am

Davies wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:You'd want a good solid cal to knock them bastards over, have a go at the muscle on em! :shock:


This guy looks like he's on the roids :lol:



Nah mate, Essendon vitamins injections :lol:

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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Sakoh » 06 Jul 2015, 11:06 am

"supplements" have really improved in efficacy :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Octane » 06 Jul 2015, 3:54 pm

If you like your chuck steak one of those will keep you fed for months :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Sam45 » 06 Jul 2015, 6:46 pm

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This will take that big roid raging buf out!!! Just don't miss Tiger :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Title_II » 06 Jul 2015, 7:26 pm

Yummy :)
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Strikey » 06 Jul 2015, 8:40 pm

Sam45 wrote:
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This will take that big roid raging buf out!!! Just don't miss Tiger :lol:


What model Tikka is that? Does it come with a synthetic stock and a 1 in 8 twist varmint barrel? :sarcasm: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Title_II » 06 Jul 2015, 9:40 pm

I only have one thing that can get that job done and I'm not spending another $4K for a super-magnum with glass that I'll never shoot.

I'll blast the bugger with my .50. Heck, it's only 2 or 3 times the power of some of the bigger stuff you guys might bring to do the job.

As long as I don't have to walk too far :) The days of me marching up and down mountains with a SAW + 80 lbs. are over. Not quite at my fighting weight at the moment :)
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by Davies » 07 Jul 2015, 10:51 am

Strikey wrote:What model Tikka is that? Does it come with a synthetic stock and a 1 in 8 twist varmint barrel? :sarcasm: :lol: :lol:


It's the new Tikka CTRpg :mrgreen:
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Re: Which Cal/Rifle For Buffalo?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 12 Jul 2015, 4:56 pm

Ok Cheers Guys. Someone said .303 I don't think I'd trust it :unknown: . Nor my .308 unless I could guarantee a headshot. :crazy: I'm thinking I'll go with the .338wm of some description. Someone also asked how big I am.. only a little fella 6 foot and 90kg. I don't want a cannon which is why I asked about the win mag. Cheers for the replys.. Happy hunting also bought the missus a .204 perhaps I'll take that.. :thumbsup: huge big cannon it is but its an M77 Ruger probably be twice the gun if it were a tikka.. :lol:
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