Help with detachable box magazine laws (DBM)

[bear foot bowhunter]

hi guys probably a stupid question is there any laws or problems with installing a dbm on a rifle
as you have to pout a magazine capacity on your pta

[<<Genesis93>>]

Strictly speaking, if you have a blind mag, then your PTA 'magazine capacity' should be stated as "-" or n/a as according to the Weapons Act you DO NOT have a magazine... it might be stated as 'firearm capacity'?? (magazines are by your law defined as removable)

Having said that, I cant see a problem installing a DBM as long as you dont exceed 10rds (lever/pump) or 15rds (bolt)

[bear foot bowhunter]

15 rnds bolt? thought it had to be 10 to

[Chronos]

10 round limit for centrefire rifles as per the NFA

15 round limit for rimfires with tubular magazines
Chronos

[<<Genesis93>>]

10 round limit for centrefire rifles as per the NFA

15 round limit for rimfires with tubular magazines
Chronos

Are you commenting on the NFA or QLD law??

Magazine limits are as I stated...yes, 15 for dbm on a cat B bolt. No limit if no dbm

And rimfire, cat A, I understand theres no limit for blind or dbm... even tube mags...

[bear foot bowhunter]

thanks guys , have any of you guys had experience with the legacy sports mag kit

[Chickenhawk]

What rifle is the mod for bear?

[bear foot bowhunter]

Remington 700 sps tac . picked one up the other day dropped straight in , bottom of the mag keeps sliding off tho , have to pout a drop of glue on it .
Waighs the same as the trappdoor assembly

[Baronvonrort]

hi guys probably a stupid question is there any laws or problems with installing a dbm on a rifle
as you have to pout a magazine capacity on your pta

If you ever have to put magazine capacity for Cat B I would put 10 which I think is maximum in all states, put the same for Cat A check if it's 15 or 10 in your state.

[VICHunter]

I don't know for other states but stating magazine capacity is poorly done (like most Australian firearm bureaucracy) on the VIC permits to acquire.

Our PTA ask for the "Magazine/Firearm capacity" and you have a 2 digit box to fill in.

I dunno what that is supposed to mean when you can buy a firearm with a rifle which ships with a 3 shot mag from the factory which also has genuine 5 and 10 shot mags available.

You could honestly write 3 at the time of purchase but if you purchase a 10 shot mag later does that make you a liar on your permit?

You could say 10 but then if you stick with the factory 3-shot mag when you have an inspection it looks like you're missing or hiding a firearm magazine which you previous claimed to have.

And for all their asking and focus on them, magazines aren't controlled and don't require id/licensing here to purchase so people could by whatever and there would be no way for them to know anyway, and we're under no obligation to update them as I understand it so what's the point of the whole thing?

Longarm PTA should be as simple as:

Make:
Model:
Serial:
Chambering(s):
Action type: auto / semi / manual
Does the firearm readily hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition: y/n

Done.

That would be everything you need to readily identify a firearm and it's capabilities instead of the 4 pages of red tape (and 10 pages of explanation) we have for a longarm permit here.

[<<Genesis93>>]

I don't know for other states but stating magazine capacity is poorly done (like most Australian firearm bureaucracy) on the VIC permits to acquire.

Our PTA ask for the "Magazine/Firearm capacity" and you have a 2 digit box to fill in.

I dunno what that is supposed to mean when you can buy a firearm with a rifle which ships with a 3 shot mag from the factory which also has genuine 5 and 10 shot mags available.

You could honestly write 3 at the time of purchase but if you purchase a 10 shot mag later does that make you a liar on your permit?

You could say 10 but then if you stick with the factory 3-shot mag when you have an inspection it looks like you're missing or hiding a firearm magazine which you previous claimed to have.

And for all their asking and focus on them, magazines aren't controlled and don't require id/licensing here to purchase so people could by whatever and there would be no way for them to know anyway, and we're under no obligation to update them as I understand it so what's the point of the whole thing?

Longarm PTA should be as simple as:

Make:
Model:
Serial:
Chambering(s):
Action type: auto / semi / manual
Does the firearm readily hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition: y/n

Done.

That would be everything you need to readily identify a firearm and it's capabilities instead of the 4 pages of red tape (and 10 pages of explanation) we have for a longarm permit here.

No, sorry.

PTA should be as simple as this;

[BBJ]

Even better