Gwion wrote:I have heard so many versions of conspiracy stories:
- There was a foreign black ops team in the cafe and it was a hit and so covered up by massacring the rest of the diners.
- Staged as an excuse to force waiting legislation through.
- Martin Bryant wasn't 'smart enough' to shoot that well.
- He wasn't strong enough to lug all that gear around.
etc. etc.
Three questions here:
a/ Have you ever been to Port Arthur or stopped at THE Cafe?
If so, you would be wondering what the hell is so strategically important to ANY intelligence operation. You would also understand that 30something people in that cafe would be like shooting fish in a barrel... quite literally.
b/ Ever heard of an IDIOT SAVANT?
Some people can just pick something up and do it easily, even when they can't tie their own shoe laces!
c/ Have you ever actually SPOKEN to some one who was there that day?
I have and the mere mention of conspiracy theories had her a little in-sensed, to be frank. She put it forward that everyone crouched down behind what ever/whoever they could, trying to get what ever cover was available. AS a result, everyone's head/neck/chest was at HIP LEVEL and they were lined up behind each other; all within less than 10m of the shooter. Ever held a rifle at hip level to a sick sheep on the ground, standing with the muzzle about A FOOT from the sheep? It's not hard to hit them in the head, in fact you'd likely miss and get them in the neck if you were more like two meters away; still, with a 308 or even 223, it would likely be pretty instantly fatal. It does NOT take marksmanship.
Now. I'm not saying there shouldn't be some sort of due process in order to determine the FACTS, or that it is impossible that MB was not the shooter. All i'm saying is that his low IQ is not a solid argument for his inability to perform the heinous deed and that the likelyhood of any international spy ring being interested in the cafe in Port Arthur (or anywhere in Tasmania, for that matter) is kind of absurd.
Gwion wrote:- There was a foreign black ops team in the cafe and it was a hit and so covered up by massacring the rest of the diners.
southeast varmiter wrote:The truth will never come out.
I wasn't there on the day, but two people very close to me were and contacted me that night.
It infuriates me to this day.
southeast varmiter wrote:The truth will never come out.
I wasn't there on the day, but two people very close to me were and contacted me that night.
It infuriates me to this day.
bigfellascott wrote:Anyone know why they made a Morgue truck with such a large body capacity (only one ever made apparently) and it was sent to Tassie for some reason a year or so earlier.
adam wrote:60 minutes had an interview with his mother a number of years ago, but IIRC there was no interview with Martin himself.
adam wrote:It seems that Martin's IQ is lower than average
Gwion wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Anyone know why they made a Morgue truck with such a large body capacity (only one ever made apparently) and it was sent to Tassie for some reason a year or so earlier.
Maybe because Tassie is the 2nd most violent, crime riddled state in Australia, after NT; per capita, that is!
???
Just offering possibilities.
southeast varmiter wrote:Or the fact there was a trauma surgeon conference on at the time in Hobart.
Plus all management from PA facility were on a one of a kind offsite across the very hours of the incident.
southeast varmiter wrote:One could almost infer. That with exception of the victims. All other kinds of witnesses were not present that should have been.
Hey but the world works in funny coincidental ways hey.....
bigfellascott wrote:Gwion wrote:bigfellascott wrote:Anyone know why they made a Morgue truck with such a large body capacity (only one ever made apparently) and it was sent to Tassie for some reason a year or so earlier.
Maybe because Tassie is the 2nd most violent, crime riddled state in Australia, after NT; per capita, that is!
???
Just offering possibilities.
What's the murder rate like but compared to other places? Strange how no where else in Aus Needed such a high capacity meat wagon, I guess we got lucky then sent to to Tassie hey. I believe it was sold off not long after P.A. I guess you Tassies became less violent after that?
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Of course there as a need for a 16 berth meat wagon ;
Mortality by assault in Tasmania, Year - Total (by firearm)
2004 3 ( 3 )
2005 7 ( 2 )
2006 2 ( 3 ) (<?)
2007 6 ( 2 )
2008 5 ( 0 )
2009 6 ( 0 )
2010 3 ( 0 )
2011 5 ( 4 )
2012 9 ( 1 )
2013 7 ( 2 )
So the capacity would be sufficient for 2 to 3 years of 'need' ..... maybe even 3 or 4 years in a pinch (pile em high)
c/-ABS
Title_II wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:Of course there as a need for a 16 berth meat wagon ;
Mortality by assault in Tasmania, Year - Total (by firearm)
2004 3 ( 3 )
2005 7 ( 2 )
2006 2 ( 3 ) (<?)
2007 6 ( 2 )
2008 5 ( 0 )
2009 6 ( 0 )
2010 3 ( 0 )
2011 5 ( 4 )
2012 9 ( 1 )
2013 7 ( 2 )
So the capacity would be sufficient for 2 to 3 years of 'need' ..... maybe even 3 or 4 years in a pinch (pile em high)
c/-ABS
So what do you do with the people murdered by other than firearm? Bake ''em on the roof?