Storage at parents adress

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Ok so I got a letter today in regards to my weapons licence. I currently live with two other persons One is licenced an one is not. Essentially weapons Licencing have stated that they will not grant my weapons licence as they will not permit because they have deemed that storage at the current place that I live is not a option despite the fact that weapons are stored already at this address. My parents have stated that they don't mind me storing my safe at their house I haven't seen any requirements on the weapons licencing site that would be a issue is there anything that I have missed or that any one knows about
thanks again in advance for the help guys.

[AusTac]

Sounds kinda wierd? Is there any more to the story? If not id be asking for some explanation/how the situation can be resolved.

And one more thing.. its not a " weapon " its a firearm

[brett1868]

Strangely enough in QLD it's actually called a "Weapons License" despite the fact it's only a Weapon if used as one.

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponslicensing/

I just read their document on safe storage and it's got me beat what their problem is. Providing the unlicensed person has no way of accessing the storage and you comply with all the other requirements I don't see any problem. I'd be calling them and asking for an explanation along with the title and section of the legislation preventing you storing them at your place of residence.

[AZZA'S HJ47]

that's kinda my point it seems real strange housemate has a licence and a safe has had a audit no dramas I don't know what there angle is certainly strange though. other house mate has dramas with a x wife nothing too dramatic but the again she is discrediting herself at a drastic speed but then again she has thrown all of us under a bus it is however the crap she is throwing around is that outrageous cops laugh at it.

[Sam45]

Well that is just garbage! I live with my wife and kids, NONE of them have a licence. WTF are these muppets on about. These clowns NEED to start following the LAWS and not making decisions based on what they think. It has fark all do do with them.

[AZZA'S HJ47]

Has been a pain 6 month wait now this crap joy joy just another fork in the road

[<<Genesis93>>]

that's kinda my point it seems real strange housemate has a licence and a safe has had a audit no dramas I don't know what there angle is certainly strange though. other house mate has dramas with a x wife nothing too dramatic but the again she is discrediting herself at a drastic speed but then again she has thrown all of us under a bus it is however the crap she is throwing around is that outrageous cops laugh at it.

There you have it. You answered it yourself, 'issues' with the mate, either real or imaginary......
Unfortunately, the commissioner/ authorised officer can refuse/suspend/ cancel licences for practically any reason. Theyve made a call that there is a risk in the household. Maybe their database hasnt made the connection with the other licence holder, maybe it would be 'less reasonable to cancel his licence on the same grounds.....

Just put your safe at the parents THEN fight it or just let it go.....

Re the 'weapon' word, it shouldnt be used in relation to sporting/hunting arms,
a weapon can be any animate or inanimate object either used or intended to be used to injure another PERSON.
The 223rem rifles issued to the army is a weapon, Same owned by a civvie (ye we can dream) is not.

[adam]

Right, wrong or otherwise - I agree with Genesis. It'll be much better for you to first comply with their actions, and then fight it, instead of trying to fight it straight up. It will give you more time / no deadlines, etc.

As for the harassment from your room mates ex - I'd like to know - why is it that they can seem to cause all sorts of problems with lies that cause other people issues such as this - without any repercussions. I thought that lying in statements was a criminal offense - but it seems that most people these days get away with false accusations that cause others major grief with no risk to themselves.

[<<Genesis93>>]

2 reasons adam, firstly when it come to 'dangerous' guns, and accusations involving the owner, the police will always take what they consider the safest alternative and remove the guns just in case....benefit of the doubt to the accuser. Always. no question. Part of their always reduce liability- thinking.

Secondly, the trend that is blatantly obvious to any observer, of any level of cynicism, is that its given the agressor/alleged aggressor is ALWAYS the male, if you believe the media.....its just a part of the war against the male. Any bloke that doesn't realise this - might be looking, but can't see....

A good friend of mine had a run in with the (now ex) wife and the law, false accusation+police..... he lost his licence and has still not got it back... years later. Tell the magistrate its lies... doesnt matter much


This is were I value add to the post

There are feminists, but there are no male-ists... Why? because the world is biased to the male you think? I don't. I have work in private/government/local government sectors where there are PLENTY of women 'at the top'......In some councils for example, which are some of the largest employers and largest corporations around, there are women at the top CEO, below (director), Managers, and Councillors and plenty in the 'foot soldiering'.

Feminist movement is the movement seeking 'equality' between the genders socially and in employment, Is there anywhere in our modern society where women cant go, can't be employed? Of course not, feminism is an out of touch / out of date movement that should be deleted from our vocabulary....

But what of the short-haired hairy armpit brigade (sorry, stereotype) that proclaim to be feminists?
Simple, theyre not Feminist - theyre man-haters aka MISANDRISTS.

= man haters.

its the gender opposite of the now familiar word - Misogynist = (woman hater)

[AZZA'S HJ47]

2 reasons adam, firstly when it come to 'dangerous' guns, and accusations involving the owner, the police will always take what they consider the safest alternative and remove the guns just in case....benefit of the doubt to the accuser. Always. no question. Part of their always reduce liability- thinking.

Secondly, the trend that is blatantly obvious to any observer, of any level of cynicism, is that its given the agressor/alleged aggressor is ALWAYS the male, if you believe the media.....its just a part of the war against the male. Any bloke that doesn't realise this - might be looking, but can't see....

A good friend of mine had a run in with the (now ex) wife and the law, false accusation+police..... he lost his licence and has still not got it back... years later. Tell the magistrate its lies... doesnt matter much


This is were I value add to the post

There are feminists, but there are no male-ists... Why? because the world is biased to the male you think? I don't. I have work in private/government/local government sectors where there are PLENTY of women 'at the top'......In some councils for example, which are some of the largest employers and largest corporations around, there are women at the top CEO, below (director), Managers, and Councillors and plenty in the 'foot soldiering'.

Feminist movement is the movement seeking 'equality' between the genders socially and in employment, Is there anywhere in our modern society where women cant go, can't be employed? Of course not, feminism is an out of touch / out of date movement that should be deleted from our vocabulary....

But what of the short-haired hairy armpit brigade (sorry, stereotype) that proclaim to be feminists?
Simple, theyre not Feminist - theyre man-haters aka MISANDRISTS.

= man haters.

its the gender opposite of the now familiar word - Misogynist = (woman hater)

I hear you. I avoid her like the plague the crap my hose mate endures to date this year he has only seen his kids 3 times. She attempted to put a DVO out on him, plus dragged both my house mate and myself through the crap and false aligations. The crap she penned against myself was enough to drive a person nuts and to top it off when i spoke to a laywer i was told to tread lightly (how is it that someone can say utter s**t and it be held against you) And to top it off she showed for court once then i dnt bother showing for the next 3. From the polices point of view the male is the agressor. Her last visit luckly my house mate and i recorded where she proceded to throw haymakers at my house mate led to a small push match with her being told to leave repeatedly. Then the same old police show up to take him away until their shown what actually happened. The police are now pressing for a dvo and assult charges, hopefully should know by tomorrow. She doesn't show house mate gets what he wants and were all happy fingers crossed

[AnotherMisfire]

Ok so I got a letter today in regards to my weapons licence. I currently live with two other persons One is licenced an one is not. Essentially weapons Licencing have stated that they will not grant my weapons licence as they will not permit because they have deemed that storage at the current place that I live is not a option despite the fact that weapons are stored already at this address. My parents have stated that they don't mind me storing my safe at their house I haven't seen any requirements on the weapons licencing site that would be a issue is there anything that I have missed or that any one knows about
thanks again in advance for the help guys.

Someone you live with, or their systems indicate you live with, is probably disqualified from having a gun licence. And they can't tell you who because they'd be breaking the privacy laws.

I don't think they would have an issue storing at your parents, but if your parents aren't licensed then you should tell licensing that's what you're doing and that no unlicensed person will have access to your safe.

[Lorgar]

they have deemed that storage at the current place that I live is not a option despite the fact that weapons are stored already at this address

Can you quote exactly what they have said? Would be helpful in pulling their argument apart rather then just voicing generalisations here.

[AZZA'S HJ47]

they have deemed that storage at the current place that I live is not a option despite the fact that weapons are stored already at this address

Can you quote exactly what they have said? Would be helpful in pulling their argument apart rather then just voicing generalisations here.

I cant really answer that question as I was never given a answer regardless of how it was worded or however politely I asked. My parents address has been approved for storage purposes. fast forward 4 months I now have my licence however I still don't have my PTA apparently awaiting "Quality assurance Checks" I am currently over having to deal with weapons licencing not a great deal I can do other than accepts the cards I have been dealt. 9 month s**t fight. {Jumping through hoops}

[Wobble]

I think you need to push for something in writing mate. It's my understanding they are required to inform you in writing of any approval or rejection.

That will either force their hand into doing something, or in the case of rejection give you something concrete to argue against.

Verbal answers are just a way for them to stall indefinitely without creating a paper trail. Just saying... It wouldn't be the first time people have been rejected over the phone and when push came to shove and the answer have to be formally provided in writing things suddenly got approved.