happyhunter wrote:My Anny 1530 has a short 19" sporter profile barrel. It's the best balanced rifle in the stable so barrel length effects the balance of the rifle too. Also, I don't agree that 99% of short barrels are heavy/thick barrels. My Browning has a very thin light 22" barrel so I think the 99% observation comes from the number of people falling for the marketing hype. People buy heavy barreled rifles to hunt and end up carrying a lot of extra mass around the paddock for no gain.
Gwion wrote:Short thin barrels can be just as or more ridged as long heavy barrels of the ratio if length:wall thickness in the cylinder. I'm tipping market pressures, target weights and recoil management are the answer; as already mentioned above.
You could always build a rifle like that. I've been thinking of a left hand short barrel light weight hunting rifle for a while now.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Marketing.
short and fat looks cool.
short and skinny doesnt look 'right'...
long and fat looks good but is impractical, unless you hunt with a lifting crew.
Yes, a long whippy barrel with have a particular oscillation amplitude and frequency, lop of a few inches and it will have the same 'rigidity' but the oscillation will be reduced.
Goshawk wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:Marketing.
short and fat looks cool.
short and skinny doesnt look 'right'...
long and fat looks good but is impractical, unless you hunt with a lifting crew.
Yes, a long whippy barrel with have a particular oscillation amplitude and frequency, lop of a few inches and it will have the same 'rigidity' but the oscillation will be reduced.
Yeah, I had previously owned a Howa, 24" heavy barrel in 243, so bloody heavy! It would break me by the third day of hunting in the mountains.
One of my friends just bought a Savage arms scout (18" with brake). It weighs 3.6kg bare (no scope etc). My A-bolt Composite hunter with full magazine, rifle sling, Talley rings and a heavy 4.5-18x40 scope (600grams) weighs 3.55kg. It's amazing how much difference in weight there is in barrel profiles.
Isn't the purpose of a scout rifle is to be under 1m and not weigh much?
Chronos wrote:You can't build a mountain rifle in 30-06 with an 18" heavy profile barrel because your customers will say "30/06 needs at least 22" to get deer weight pills up to speed" so they're forced to make it with a 24" no 3 profile barrel.
Chronos wrote: also a bit of science in there somewhere.
Chronos.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Marketing.
short and fat looks cool.