Buffalo River .308 ammo? Has anyone used this stuff?

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Re: Buffalo River .308 ammo? Has anyone used this stuff?

Post by MalleeFarmer » 30 Apr 2016, 3:24 pm

Scotty, here is a picture of a round in calipers total OAL of 2.628"

Another thing you could do is load a dummy round with a very lightly seated bullet to get a seating depth on the lands for your rifle.
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Post by scotty87 » 30 Apr 2016, 5:17 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:Scotty, here is a picture of a round in calipers total OAL of 2.628"

Another thing you could do is load a dummy round with a very lightly seated bullet to get a seating depth on the lands for your rifle.


Cheers mallee, at the moment I have 20rnds loaded starting at 46.5gr working up to 47.5 of AR2208, haven't got data for this projectile so used data for Speer 130gr HP and backed it off a bit, loaded rounds are seated at 2.710", which was from a load I found for the Sierra 135gr matchking HP online.
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Post by Lorgar » 02 May 2016, 3:19 pm

Strikey wrote:Now I know what has been going wrong with my loads, hardly any of them have "ballistic tips" :wtf: :lol: :lol:


Didn't you know? Bullets aren't accurate unless they have a cool word like "ballistic" in their name :sarcasm:
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Post by scotty87 » 10 May 2016, 6:01 pm

tested my first lot of reloads with the 135gr Sierra 2124 projectiles over the weekend, shows alot of promise, charges were well and truly around the minimum with no signs of high pressure in any of the loads I shot, I'm using data from adi for the speer 130gr HP as a guide.

My HOWA sporter much preffered these hollow points over the 165gr spitzers I have been trying to develop a load for.

has a promise of being a good projectile for this rifle if I do my part, which is something i need to work on as evidenced by these targets :lol: with the "fliers" pulling to the right, i'm thinking I need a bit more practice on the trigger as i've likely got a bit of a flinch to work out.

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probably gonna pick up a box of the factory ammo to shoot with my next lot of reloads to see how they compare.
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Post by VICHunter » 11 May 2016, 4:00 pm

A bit of tinkering with loads and seating depth and that'll tighten up too :thumbsup:
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Post by Sydor » 11 May 2016, 4:01 pm

southeast varmiter wrote:As long as they don't tumble.


I wonder what the twist rate is on your rifle?
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Post by MalleeFarmer » 12 May 2016, 3:41 pm

My Howa .308 varmint is a 1-10 but if memory serves me the sporters are 1-12 I may be wrong.
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Post by scotty87 » 13 May 2016, 9:15 am

Got my weekend sorted, next batch of loads to test, 47.5, 48, 48.5gr AR2208 COAL 2.635" picked up 20 of the factory loads to compare.

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Pulled a bullet from a factory load, charge weighed just under 48gr, not sure what the powder is, grains were quite long.
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Post by MalleeFarmer » 15 May 2016, 8:32 am

I'd assume ADI would use their own powders in factory loads. Does it look like AR2208? Post a pic just curious.
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Post by scotty87 » 20 May 2016, 8:22 pm

looks different to my AR2208, grains were long and it was a cylindrical powder, shot all of it unfortunately so no pic.

this is my best group with my last batch of reloads, 48.5GR AR2208, 2.635 OAL, this group was alot better than anything else I shot that day, I held the foreend in front of the rest for this group and it tightened up nicely.

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I'm pretty stoked to get this from a sporter barrel, I reckon I'll reload the next batch using the once fired OSA brass and load 48.5GR varying the seating depth from 2.635 out to 2.710ish moving up in 20 thou increments and looking for pressure signs.

best group I shot with the OSA 135gr factory load was 1.2-1.5 inch @ 100m but I didnt have good control over the fore end, I was trying to let it free recoil, which it didn't seem to like. I reckon i'll be either buying more of this factory ammo or in the least a batch of OSA brass as my once fired cases look like they'll make great reloads.
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Post by sandgroperbill » 21 May 2016, 12:23 pm

scotty87 wrote:looks different to my AR2208, grains were long and it was a cylindrical powder



2206H, perhaps?
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Post by sandgroperbill » 21 May 2016, 12:26 pm

actually, no, 48gr would be way too high for 2206h
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Post by scotty87 » 21 May 2016, 4:11 pm

Maybe it's thier benchmark 8208?
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Post by Utcherd » 15 Jun 2016, 3:51 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:I'd assume ADI would use their own powders in factory loads. Does it look like AR2208? Post a pic just curious.


I think I remember reading somewhere though they did a blend(s) for their factory ammo, not an off the shelf option like we're offered?

Wish I could remember where I picked that up, can't remember :|
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Post by zook60 » 18 Jul 2016, 9:46 pm

scotty87 wrote:Maybe it's thier benchmark 8208?

Na the 8208 is a finer granule than 2208
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Post by KennyA » 19 Jul 2016, 6:24 pm

My Howa in 223 shots 1/2 Moa and smaller using Aussie outback 69gr pills.
Assume factory ammo.
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Post by Browning » 31 Jul 2016, 1:35 pm

Finally got around to shooting this stuff in my Tikka this weekend and it was fantastic!! Clover leafing at 100 so I'm very happy...
Now to try and replicate it as a hand load...
Think I'll start with 2208 and work my way through a few diff loads...
Any suggestions on what the sweet spot seems to be in terms of grains of powder?
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Post by scotty87 » 31 Jul 2016, 2:14 pm

Browning wrote:Finally got around to shooting this stuff in my Tikka this weekend and it was fantastic!! Clover leafing at 100 so I'm very happy...
Now to try and replicate it as a hand load...
Think I'll start with 2208 and work my way through a few diff loads...
Any suggestions on what the sweet spot seems to be in terms of grains of powder?


I posted my results in this thread already seems to be 48.5gr of 2208, OAL 2.635". Had 3 shots cloverleaf at 100m 5 shots fell under 1moa with my howa sporter. Projectiles are the Sierra 2124.

I'd suggest starting at 47.5gr and working up in your rifle.

48.5gr of 2208 is pretty full in a remington case, in the OSA cases I reckon the load would be compressed as they seem to have less volume than my current batch of remmington brass.
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Post by Browning » 31 Jul 2016, 10:42 pm

Yeah, have had the same prob in the past with 2208 completely filling the case..... Thanks
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Post by scotty87 » 01 Aug 2016, 4:57 am

Browning wrote:Yeah, have had the same prob in the past with 2208 completely filling the case..... Thanks


I loaded my once fired osa cases with 45.5gr, 46gr and 46.5gr of 2208 behind hornady 150gr SST, if I can get one of these loads to shoot this pill nicely I will buy a batch of 100 unprimed OSA cases as it's darn cheap brass @ $66/100
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Post by Griffo7.62 » 01 Aug 2018, 9:32 pm

This ammo shots great out of my tikka t3x varmint, got it out to 400m no worries.
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