Oldbloke wrote:Basic peep sights are easy to make. I've use about 4 or 5mm ones and not a bad compromise for hunting. But to be effective they need to be close to the eye. Not 6 - 8 inches away. See pic.
SHV wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Basic peep sights are easy to make. I've use about 4 or 5mm ones and not a bad compromise for hunting. But to be effective they need to be close to the eye. Not 6 - 8 inches away. See pic.
How about Japanese type 38? Peep in the open sight position, one of the most accurate rifles during the WWII
bladeracer wrote:SHV wrote:Oldbloke wrote:Basic peep sights are easy to make. I've use about 4 or 5mm ones and not a bad compromise for hunting. But to be effective they need to be close to the eye. Not 6 - 8 inches away. See pic.
How about Japanese type 38? Peep in the open sight position, one of the most accurate rifles during the WWII
Maybe at the start of the war they were, mine appears to have belonged to some little bloke who sat in the bushes with a mountain of ammo and just fired the thing into the jungle non-stop for weeks on end
The bore slugs .270" and patterns rather than groups with sideways bullets. I powder-coated some of the Hornady .267" 160gn RN's to bring them up to .270", and paper-patched .243" bullets up to .272", but they're still sideways.
I agree with Oldbloke, apertures near the eye are best. My M96 came with Mojo sight which were replacement front and rear apertures and I don't play well with apertures halfway down the barrel, I prefer open sights over those.
SHV wrote:If you got better eye sight open sight maybe better but unfortunately for me the open sight always guess work but the peep sights are more comfortable to use and always much better accuracy
bladeracer wrote:SHV wrote:If you got better eye sight open sight maybe better but unfortunately for me the open sight always guess work but the peep sights are more comfortable to use and always much better accuracy
My eyesight is failing me rapidly now, front sights don't exist anymore and rear notches have become "W"-shaped (so I can pick which one I want to look through). But if you practice getting a consistent cheek weld you'll find you can still shoot remarkably well without being able to see the sights.
But the aperture sights work best when it's close to the eye, as close as you can have it without endangering yourself from recoil.
For precision try one of the apertures that fit onto your glasses, like the Eyepal. For about $40 it is well worth trying as the difference is astonishing. I can be looking through my open sights and have no front sight and a blurry W for the rear, pull down my glasses or goggles with the Eyepal on them and immediately have a perfect sight picture. It does not work well at all with aperture sights I've found.
https://eyepalusa.com/
Goggles work much better for me. With glasses, they move with every shot so you have to find the hole in your glasses first, then look for the sights, and then the target. With goggles they stay in place every shot, and when I remove them and put them on again they're still in the same place. Goggles do fog up though so I drilled a hole through them so there's nought but air between my eye and the sights. It means I can't see much through the fogged up left lens though so I may decide to remove the left lens entirely.
I shot with LERAA last weekend, and used these goggles with the open sight SMLE, I don't need the aperture with the PH5 sight on the modified SMLE. LERAA here don't like the Eyepal and consider it a sighting aid, they're happy for me to shoot but I won't be in the running for awards and things, which is fine with me so it's a non-issue. But LERA in the UK do allow the Eyepal and consider it an aid to eyesight rather than an aid to shooting.
SHV wrote:This is a good idea for the outdoor range at day light, will make the vision much clearer but a little bit darker…
bladeracer wrote:SHV wrote:This is a good idea for the outdoor range at day light, will make the vision much clearer but a little bit darker…
Yep, I find it useless for field use. Normally if I can't find the target I just open my left eye and I'm able to find the target pretty easily in my right eye, or simply shoot both eyes open. The Eyepal seems to disconnect my eyes though so I can't make that same transition (this is not a problem with aperture sights though). On top of that, the lenses do fog up after a little while, except for where I've drilled the hole, so I am pretty much blindfolded while shooting, despite having a perfect sight picture. That's why I'm thinking I might decide to cut out the left lens entirely. It can be disconcerting not being able to see what might be moving into my line of fire while I'm sighting. I want to try spitting in the lens and maybe an anti-fog spray to try to address the fogging.
But it is a means of allowing me to use my open-sight rifles with a degree of proficiency, for shooting steel and paper at least.
My girlfriend and I saw the optometrist on Monday for my annual check-up and he tells us yet again that our eyesight is fine, despite it being obvious to both of us that it is far worse than it has been. I think we need to get a second opinion.
SHV wrote:
bladeracer wrote:SHV wrote:This is a good idea for the outdoor range at day light, will make the vision much clearer but a little bit darker…
Yep, I find it useless for field use. Normally if I can't find the target I just open my left eye and I'm able to find the target pretty easily in my right eye, or simply shoot both eyes open. The Eyepal seems to disconnect my eyes though so I can't make that same transition (this is not a problem with aperture sights though). On top of that, the lenses do fog up after a little while, except for where I've drilled the hole, so I am pretty much blindfolded while shooting, despite having a perfect sight picture. That's why I'm thinking I might decide to cut out the left lens entirely. It can be disconcerting not being able to see what might be moving into my line of fire while I'm sighting. I want to try spitting in the lens and maybe an anti-fog spray to try to address the fogging.
But it is a means of allowing me to use my open-sight rifles with a degree of proficiency, for shooting steel and paper at least.
My girlfriend and I saw the optometrist on Monday for my annual check-up and he tells us yet again that our eyesight is fine, despite it being obvious to both of us that it is far worse than it has been. I think we need to get a second opinion.