#9 for Foxes?

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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by niteowl » 27 Jan 2021, 11:07 pm

animalpest wrote:When you want to burn money using small shot for a bit more punch.

Niteowl - where is down your way?


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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by animalpest » 28 Jan 2021, 10:20 am

Niteowl - so whats he doing thats illegal with the poisons?
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by niteowl » 28 Jan 2021, 11:21 am

Won't discuss this here
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by Ziege » 28 Jan 2021, 12:54 pm

animalpest wrote:Niteowl - so whats he doing thats illegal with the poisons?



maybe giving them to his mother in law???
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by animalpest » 28 Jan 2021, 6:29 pm

Then why make allegations against someone in the first instance?
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by niteowl » 28 Jan 2021, 6:42 pm

animalpest wrote:Then why make allegations against someone in the first instance?



Allegation? Just made a statement, I know the situation personally, suggesting that not all pest controllers are squeaky clean.
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by Diamond Jim » 25 May 2021, 2:28 am

So who loads TSS and how does it compare price-wise to conventional ammo?
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by mchughcb » 25 May 2021, 5:29 pm

Diamond Jim wrote:So who loads TSS and how does it compare price-wise to conventional ammo?


I load it and its very expensive. Infact so expensive its cheaper for me to using my 416 Remington magnum to shoot foxes :drinks:
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by Diamond Jim » 27 May 2021, 9:39 pm

mchughcb wrote:
Diamond Jim wrote:So who loads TSS and how does it compare price-wise to conventional ammo?


I load it and its very expensive. Infact so expensive its cheaper for me to using my 416 Remington magnum to shoot foxes :drinks:


Seriously? I'm guessing a .416 Rem Mag cartridge would be somewhere well north of $5 - that's one very expensive shotgun cartridge!
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by mchughcb » 28 May 2021, 1:08 pm

Yep that's about right.
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by mchughcb » 28 May 2021, 1:10 pm

Diamond Jim wrote:
mchughcb wrote:
Diamond Jim wrote:So who loads TSS and how does it compare price-wise to conventional ammo?


I load it and its very expensive. Infact so expensive its cheaper for me to using my 416 Remington magnum to shoot foxes :drinks:


Seriously? I'm guessing a .416 Rem Mag cartridge would be somewhere well north of $5 - that's one very expensive shotgun cartridge!


https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/federal ... shotshells

US$49 for 5.
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by Diamond Jim » 28 May 2021, 9:47 pm

US$10 is about Aus$15 per shot! That might be acceptable in the USA if you have one shot at a turkey but is never going to catch on in Australia with multiple rabbits, foxes, cats in one session. It's just not practical.
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by mchughcb » 28 May 2021, 9:57 pm

Diamond Jim wrote:US$10 is about Aus$15 per shot! That might be acceptable in the USA if you have one shot at a turkey but is never going to catch on in Australia with multiple rabbits, foxes, cats in one session. It's just not practical.


Well practical and cost effective if you are not a "pro" are two completely different things.

Secondly the cost is almost entirely proportional to the payload. The turkey loads in 20G can go as high as 2oz or 56 grams. I'm using 15 grams of #10 for ducks and it will kill them at 45 yards. I'm using 27 grams of #7 for foxes and that will kill then at 70m. If I really want to limit it I could drop it down to 20 grams. So the cost for me is about $2- $4/shot depending on the payload. It is possible to drop the duckload down to 12 gram or even 10 if the distance is under 40 yards which starts to put it in the bismuth range.
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by Skinna » 29 May 2021, 12:08 am

WOW...!!
No 7's at 70 metres killing foxes...

Id be interested to see any like for like testing in direct comparison to lead if you have it at your finger tips...
Even on a fox running flat out, at 70 metres id launch a 22lr sub before letting a load of 7's go...well the target loads of 7's in my box anyway...
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Re: #9 for Foxes?

Post by mchughcb » 29 May 2021, 12:40 pm

Skinna wrote:WOW...!!
No 7's at 70 metres killing foxes...

Id be interested to see any like for like testing in direct comparison to lead if you have it at your finger tips...
Even on a fox running flat out, at 70 metres id launch a 22lr sub before letting a load of 7's go...well the target loads of 7's in my box anyway...


Plenty of video's of foxes this year being dropped at 70m with #7.

However look here for actual pattern and penetration tests on a like for like.

https://youtu.be/3TcwX7pWFR4
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