Speculating on new firearms laws

[9.3x64]

Straight pulls to go.

Sadly this will exclude some of the Anschutz and Blaser firearms

Why would they exclude some?

[deye243]

Here are the castapo new rules The Real jem is the fact that appealing any decision is deliberately put out of your reach which is proof this is about f****** us over an absolutely nothing to do with public safety

1. Reduction of firearms per licence holder to 4 ONLY, primary producer 10. W.A. allows 5 per licence holder.
Target shooters and collectors may apply for additional however will be a Commissioner or FAR delegate decision. 

2. Reduced licenses from 5 years to 2. Fresh application to renew your licence will be required every 2 years. 

3. Removal of NCAT appeal rights for a licence cancellation or refusal. Appeals can ONLY be heard in the NSW Supreme Court. Which will cost $50k plus and will be unaffordable by 98 % of shooters!

4. Recatorgoisation of straight pull and press button to Cat C. 

5. Reduction in magazine capacities to 5.
 
6. Increase oversight of registry, safe storage, shooting clubs.
 
7. Police to check safe storage requirements before firearm will be permitted to be acquired. 

8. More frequent safe storage storage checks by police

9. A buy back scheme funded 50/50 state/federal for firearms surrendered. 

[alexjones]

So a lithgow 303 with a 10 round mag is banned in NSW now?

[Billo]

So a lithgow 303 with a 10 round mag is banned in NSW now?

Is this your only concern

[alexjones]

So a lithgow 303 with a 10 round mag is banned in NSW now?

Is this your only concern

How many people have granddads old rifle from the war? A lot do. It is a valid point.

[Wapiti]

Straight pulls to go.

Sadly this will exclude some of the Anschutz and Blaser firearms

Why would they exclude some?

I believe he means that these super-expensive and very desirable rifles will now be made illegal for A&B licences.
So sadly they'll become unobtainable and not allowed.
Edit: Not many farmers will want these Frankenrifles, so I truly hope the buyback prices will be the replacement cost.

I wonder how they will handle lever actions with fixed tube mags (rifles and shotguns) like hi-cap .44, 38's etc. And treasured collectors historical pieces.
Or rifles that have only a AR style mag that is 10-shot detachable magpul-style as the smallest available? Like Ruger American bolt-actions, Howa Mini etc.

Seeing the absurd mention of "belt-fed" shotguns just reinforces that the public have these absolutely uninformed activist trash representing them in politics - how can people have been trusted to govern what they have no idea about?

I've always said this to much criticism - until we stop voting for political morons (how they present, hair colour, movie-star looks whatever other dumb reasons we have the politicians we have now) or left - right idealisms - instead of voting for individuals that have life experience in real-world Australian life we have ourselves to blame.
I remember being caned for mentioning One Nation and was told in NSW Labor was your friend. It's obvious Wapiti, you idiot, Labor gave us state Forest hunting. And SFP side with Labor because of Port Arthur/John Howard even though they wrote the basis of the 1996 laws.
(Umbrella up now)
Anyway, WAY too late now. Thank f**k we threw out Gaybor in Qld.

[Wapiti]

Never forget this b@stardry, and remember who is sticking up for you.
Stop living in the past, because it's long gone and I hope we can realise this together, and come out OK.

Only One Nation and the Nationals are on the side of you guys, and us country folk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNkjH_kPpCQ

[Wapiti]

NSW residents - don't forget in your emails to this tiny man Minn's office, that he has now become a temporary Premier - he is out on his bony dribbling arse at the next election. Forever the failure of a "leader".

[deye243]

Never forget this b@stardry, and remember who is sticking up for you.
Stop living in the past, because it's long gone and I hope we can realise this together, and come out OK.

Only One Nation and the Nationals are on the side of you guys, and us country folk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNkjH_kPpCQ

Nationals that's a bloody joke them along with the liberals have already stated that they support these new laws

[9.3x64]

Never forget this b@stardry, and remember who is sticking up for you.
Stop living in the past, because it's long gone and I hope we can realise this together, and come out OK.

Only One Nation and the Nationals are on the side of you guys, and us country folk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNkjH_kPpCQ

Nationals that's a bloody joke them along with the liberals have already stated that they support these new laws

Yep, all the states regardless of party will all align with the NSW laws.
I don’t trust either party when it comes to throwing us all under the bus when it suits them.
This will be the second time for a lot of us that we have had our firearms confiscated.
The first time I lost two Heckler and Koch hunting rifles with three shot magazines. This time it looks like I will loose two Blaser R8’s with associated barrels.
What’s next?
Bolt action rifles might go in the next round, then maybe break action single shot. Sounds absurd doesn’t it?
I only have five firearms now, and after this I will only have three, one shotgun and two drillings.
I feel really sorry for some of you guys that have large collections and stand to loose a lifetime of collecting firearms. What a massive kick in the arse!

[fussy]

Stop speculating and start pestering/bombarding.
When these people arrive at work BEFORE they vote, they need to be hit with an avalanche of “vote against these laws or be unemployed “ emails.

[bigrich]

we got people on our side, watch the interview https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/no-c ... d3ec09ea2a

"rally round the flag boys, rally round the flag.... the battle cry of freedom ...."

[Baronvonrort]

Minns has released some details.

Magazine capacity is not unlimited as he claims for A+B
Non detachable magazines are unlimited.
Cat A detachable are currently 15 max with Cat B 10
Do i need to point out much faster to change a magazine than reload a non detachable?
Looks like the same idiocy they tried in WA which outlawed most lever action rifles before they backflipped on this.

A belt fed magazine eh?
The Bondi terrorist had a belt holding shotgun shells around his waist i guess a Bandolier might be ok since it's technically not a belt.

Terrorists took 4 guns to Bondi.
They lost one to the Russian who was possibly the first victim and another to the Syrian.
They continued to shoot with remaining 2 until Police stopped them.

We already have Zombie knife law in NSW what other changes are they making to knife laws?

[ederlezi]

Hey Team,

I sent an email to everybody. Below is the list of all the NSW Members of the Parliament that can be reached via emails. Pasting it here as it is very easy to send one email to all of them at once. If we all do that, the number of emails will be massive. (Just paste the list below in a BCC distribution list when you send the email. I used a generic introduction that is valid for all of them: Dearm Member of the Parliament Office. Template to use is above and everywhere.)

Please give it a go,
Thanks,

Members of NSW Parliament
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[Die Judicii]

There's one thing for certain,,,
I know damm well that my late brother did not do two tours of Vietnam, and then an extra 6 mths of highly classified work for the Australian army, only to end up dying from the after effects,,,, to see Australia end up the way it is now.

[wanneroo]

In the USA, firearms laws were not that great in the 1980s and before. But we organized, became vocal and do what the left always does and that is push.

And with some exceptions with some individual states, pretty much in the USA you can carry and use your guns to defend yourself, hunt, target shoot or just collect for historical value.

So you will have to do the same, fight, fight, fight and be on top of these politicians and advocate your side.

Otherwise these totalitarian nut jobs like Chris Minns and Albanese will just take everything you have away.

Everyone knows what the real problem is and that is 3rd world immigration. There are people in the country incompatible with western civilization and they need the boot.

[bigrich]

In the USA, firearms laws were not that great in the 1980s and before. But we organized, became vocal and do what the left always does and that is push.

And with some exceptions with some individual states, pretty much in the USA you can carry and use your guns to defend yourself, hunt, target shoot or just collect for historical value.

So you will have to do the same, fight, fight, fight and be on top of these politicians and advocate your side.

Otherwise these totalitarian nut jobs like Chris Minns and Albanese will just take everything you have away.

Everyone knows what the real problem is and that is 3rd world immigration. There are people in the country incompatible with western civilization and they need the boot.

i agree on all points. folks in the USA must be watching what's going on out here with interest .

[Wapiti]

Has everyone spent some time looking after the orgs that are doing the heavy lifting?
Please either join or donate.

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[bigrich]

Has everyone spent some time looking after the orgs that are doing the heavy lifting?
Please either join or donate.

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a LOT of gun shops are very active in posting about this on usedguns and ozgunsales with editorials and links to petitions. shame it's taken the tragedy of bondi to unite the shooting community, that and the exposure of Labor's gross ineptness in every aspect of running the country to the general public. i'm curious to see if there's a change in rhetoric over the next few days , like there was after the march for australia

[9.3x64]

I wrote to all 92 Queensland MP’s yesterday.
Today I am starting to get the responses, which I am managing individually.
I also found out last week that my wife has cancer, and as anyone that has had cancer will understand, it is a really s**t time.
I am mentioning this because if I can make the effort at the moment, sitting in a hospital waiting room to try and fight for all of us, then so can all of you.

Make the effort to write to your state and federal MP’s.

[9.3x64]

Does anyone have a complete list of Federal MP’s and shadow MP’s email addresses?
Do we have any computer geeks on this forum that could generate that for all of us?

[mchughcb]

Senators & Members Search Results – Parliament of Australia https://share.google/xPUY5XLc25qOWtGJ5

[9.3x64]

Senators & Members Search Results – Parliament of Australia https://share.google/xPUY5XLc25qOWtGJ5

Thanks mate

[9.3x64]

Senators & Members Search Results – Parliament of Australia https://share.google/xPUY5XLc25qOWtGJ5

Thanks mate

[Border_Bloke]

Australian deer association has posted the proposed NSW legislation;
https://austdeer-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/media/file_uploads/Terrorism_and_Other_Legislation_Amendment_Bill_2025.pdf?mc_cid=f9735e7b54&mc_eid=e1dbbdb1eb

Looks like straight pull, pump action & lever release have been moved to cat C.

[9.3x64]

Liberals have just offered bipartisan support for the bill.

[Billo]

what if the Greens and the Liberals pull the rug from under Minns & Albanese when it comes time to vote.......

[9.3x64]

Liberals have just offered bipartisan support for the bill.

Many liberals have expressed concern that the NSW legislation currently being debated has been rushed, and not thought out thoroughly.
Yet they have offered bipartisan support to Minns to pass it.
The Nationals oppose it, but the Liberals are supporting it.

[womble]

Upper house is tomorrow

[9.3x64]

Upper house is tomorrow

I see, shows my understanding of the whole s**t fight.
So now that the liberal party has come out and said that they will offer bipartisan support, does that mean they may not support it tomorrow in the upper house tomorrow?