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Would you buy a Remington?

Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 15 Aug 2020, 4:21 pm

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I was thinking about purchasing the:
"Remington Fieldmaster 572"
Just you know, as a fun plinking rifle
Why not
I thought it might be pleasant to own a pump action in 22LR to diversify a bit
(As my other rifles are mainly all bolt action)

The Remington Fieldmaster 572 looks good
However, I feel a bit nervous about purchasing a Remington.....

I have heard a lot of reports from shooters in AUS and the USA about how bad Remington is
Apparently, when it comes to buying a Remington rifle, apparently it's a bit like Russian roulette
You could get a great rifle or you could get a lemon
It seems to be kind of 50/50
(From what I heard from people and from what I read)

Also, the fact that Remington went bankrupt twice as well
That doesn't give me a lot of confidence about purchasing a Remington as well....

What I read also is that;
Remington was bought out by a company called: "Freedom Group"
And apparently that company "Freedom Group" just wants to get the rifles out of the factory as fast as possible without worrying too much about quality control at all, hence all the lemons that we are seeing and hearing about from shooters from the USA and AUS etc

Please note;
- This is all what I heard from other shooters and read
- I'm just going off from what I have read and heard from other people

What do you guys reckon?

Would you personally buy a Remington?
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Re: Would you buy a Remington?

Post by eddievic » 15 Aug 2020, 5:03 pm

Ok firstly no i don't have one. But Have you seen the article on SSAA website, its old. But might do. They seem to like it. Pumps or levers IMHO are not the one you pickup when accuracy is important.

If you think it might be the one you want, go for it and don't worry too much about accuracy just enjoy it... you able to shoot still?

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Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 15 Aug 2020, 5:06 pm

Ive purchased a older rem 700 from the late 70s or early 80s appears ok havent shot it yet but i have heard enough to scare me out of buying a new one but then again i have always been sceptical about buying cheaper rifles as ive always found that you get what you pay for.
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Post by No1Mk3 » 15 Aug 2020, 5:24 pm

G'day TheFirearmEnthusiast,
Yes, no hesitation in buying a new Rem or a much older one. Remington ran into some reliability and QC issues compounded by some poor customer relations after the buyout, asset strippers are not good economic bedfellows, but have improved greatly in recent years. Don't get confused between poor corporate management and product reliability, the current position is the company is for sale with the most likely contender being the Navajo Nation, a tribe with a good track record in business. If you want a Rem pump 22, buy a new one or one made in the 90's or earlier and you will have no regrets, even later one but that becomes a gamble, Cheers. (PS: I have 7 Remingtons but all older models, love them)
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Re: Would you buy a Remington?

Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 15 Aug 2020, 5:49 pm

Eddievic;
I saw the SSAA article on the Remington 572 fieldmaster
Yes, you're right, the SSAA did like the Remington 572
However,
Maybe they gotta good one and maybe I’ll getta lemon lol
Hence my concern
And yeah, I can shoot still
I’m not too concerned about accuracy
I just feel like getting a fun plinking rifle with a pump
Just for fun

Azza’s HJ47;
Yeah
From what I read
Remington rifles were really good back, in the 70’s and 80’s etc
But the new ones from what I read, can be quite shocking so
Hence my hesitation in buying the Remington 572
It's tough lol
I would hate to spend $1,500 on the remington 572 to then have problems with it
I'm trying to weigh it up

No1Mk3;
Thanks for your feedback
I never heard of Navajo Nation before
I will look into them for sure
It’s good to hear that you’re happy with your Remingtons
I appreciate that feedback
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Re: Would you buy a Remington?

Post by boingk » 15 Aug 2020, 5:50 pm

New Marlin levers here, no issues with either of them despite Remington ownership of the brand.
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Re: Would you buy a Remington?

Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 15 Aug 2020, 5:53 pm

boingk wrote:New Marlin levers here, no issues with either of them despite Remington ownership of the brand.

I didn't know that Remington owned Marlin, interesting
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Re: Would you buy a Remington?

Post by bigrich » 15 Aug 2020, 6:44 pm

as far as 700's go , i would only like a "A" series 700 from the late 60's early 70's . just my preference . i did own a new marlin about two years ago in 357 , and it was a good well made accurate gun . just needed a better trigger
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Post by marksman » 15 Aug 2020, 7:10 pm

no l wouldn't because l have always thought they were just salesmen, jmho :unknown:
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 15 Aug 2020, 7:57 pm

You pays your money and you takes your chances, IMO.
I was lucky with my 7600 and my 39A, just to be fair. But also to be fair, I did not know what a gamble either of them was at the times of purchase or I would not have gone near either.
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Post by MJW380 » 15 Aug 2020, 8:35 pm

If I was after a .22 pump I’d much rather something like a Henry, big shop in Qld has octagonal barrel models for $1045, nearly $500 less then the Rem, and it’s actually an attractive rifle, I thing the rem is pretty ugly looking.
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Post by SCJ429 » 15 Aug 2020, 8:58 pm

How many rimfires have you already got there Mr Enthusiasm?
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Post by boingk » 15 Aug 2020, 9:08 pm

TheFirearmEnthusiast wrote:I didn't know that Remington owned Marlin, interesting


You'll occasionally hear them called "Remlins" as a way to differentiate pre and post-takeover.

SCJ429 wrote:How many rimfires have you already got there Mr Enthusiasm?


Another good point. You only really need one 22LR.

Hell, look at the Citadel Levtac-92. It'll compliment the Ruger Precision you've got.

Comes equipped with magtec foregrip, peep sights and picatinny rail. 18" barrel, 8 round tube mag, available in 3357 Magnum, 44 Magnum and 454 Casul.

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Post by in2anity » 15 Aug 2020, 9:41 pm

I thought you were all geed up for a centerfire? Nothin wrong with ye olde 22, but it’s a little limiting if you want to stretch...
At what point does a lack of maintenance become "patena"?
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Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 15 Aug 2020, 9:42 pm

Bigrich;
Your preference makes sense
From what I read, Remington made great rifles in the 60’s and 70’s, that’s right
Anything recent apparently, the feedback that I seem to get is that it’s a bit 50/50
I honestly heard a lot of bad feedback about Remington, both in AUS and USA
The fact that Remington went bankrupt twice as well, makes me very suspicious about their quality of products
It really makes me think

Marksman;
You might be right about Remington just being "just salesmen"
Apparently, the company that bought Remington “Freedom Group”, apparently they just use the well recognised name “Remington” just to push rifles out the door as fast as possible without caring too much at all about the product
It’s what I heard from some folks in the USA

Wm.Traynor;
Did you hear bad things about Remington’s too?
Since you say that you now realise that it was a gamble back then to purchase a Remington 7600 and a Marlin 39A?

MJW380;
Yeah
I’m tossing it up between the Remington Fieldmaster 572 v/s Henry Pump action
I already have a Henry Lever action in 22LR though
That’s why I was thinking of going with the Remington 572
Just to mix things up a little and add another “brand” to my safe
I actually think the Remington 572 looks better than the Henry Pump to be honest
I love the brand henry, however, I find the henry pump to look a bit basic but that’s just me
Just personal preference I suppose

SCJ429;
Once I add my pump action in 22LR to my safe, I will then have 5x 22LR’s
I’m not gonna lie
I truly am a firearm enthusiast
And for me, whenever I go down to the range, I like to spend 5x hours straight, just plinking away all day long
So the only calibres that I can afford to shoot would be the 22LR and 223 only as I don’t wanna break the bank
I don’t really need any other calibre
I will get a 12ga as well for clay target shooting also
So, 22LR, 223 and 12ga
That’s all I really need to be honest
That's all I can afford to shoot I think
For what I wanna do
Which is just plinking all day long without having a care in the world about breaking the bank

Boingk;
Haha remlings
I also heard the terms: “lemmingtons” as they have quite a few lemons
I also heard “rustingtons” as sometimes when you buy a new Remington, it’s already rusted sometimes
I actually heard of 2x people where their brand new Remingtons already had traces of rust on them
And they were brand new in a box
I couldn’t quite believe it
I still kind of can’t
I don’t know if they were being legitimate or not
If they were, that would be pretty terrible and worrisome...

That Citadel Levtac-92 looks bloody great Boingk
I’m impressed by the look of that rifle
I’ll definitely look into that one
Definitely caught my eye
Thanks for recommending this one man
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Post by boingk » 15 Aug 2020, 10:00 pm

TheFirearmEnthusiast wrote:That Citadel Levtac-92 looks bloody great Boingk
I’m impressed by the look of that rifle
I’ll definitely look into that one
Definitely caught my eye
Thanks for recommending this one man
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No worries mate! I've been meaning to get a 44 Mag to round out the fleet and this was the perfect thing. Something different, something I won't mind taking on a trip where it might get scratched etc.
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Post by marksman » 15 Aug 2020, 10:05 pm

l have never owned a remington for the reasons l stated above but there are plenty of people who absolutely love them
l can understand the attraction to a pump as well although they do go against how l usually shoot
l recently bought a winchester 06 pump 22rf takedown gallery gun made in the early 1920's that we have been having an absolute ball with
as far as 22 pumps go l bought this one as soon as l saw it and would buy another, maybe, just for competing against my son
they are IMHO a real fun gun :thumbsup:

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Post by deye243 » 15 Aug 2020, 10:18 pm

A Rem 700 not a problem but nothing else
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Post by TheFirearmEnthusiast » 15 Aug 2020, 10:22 pm

Marksman;
I’m the same as you
Pump actions also go against how I usually shoot too
But they just seem like a lot of fun for shooting with iron sights
I do consider them “real fun guns” too lol
Probably on par with lever actions as far as the “fun aspect” is concerned
Ah screw it, I think I’ll just get the Henry pump in 22LR lol
$500 cheaper too, not bad

In terms of father and son "down time"
I think that there’s nothing better than a father and a son, just plinking away, with iron sights, with either pump action or lever action 22 rifles
It seems like such a good traditional father and son moment lol
I can't wait to do that with my son once he is a bit older

Deye243;
That sounds about right I’d say
From the feedback that I've read for a while..
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Post by deye243 » 15 Aug 2020, 10:34 pm

TheFirearmEnthusiast wrote:Marksman;
I’m the same as you
Pump actions also go against how I usually shoot too
But they just seem like a lot of fun for shooting with iron sights
I do consider them “real fun guns” too lol
Probably on par with lever actions as far as the “fun aspect” is concerned
Ah screw it, I think I’ll just get the Henry pump in 22LR lol
$500 cheaper too, not bad

In terms of father and son "down time"
I think that there’s nothing better than a father and a son, just plinking away, with iron sights, with either pump action or lever action 22 rifles
It seems like such a good traditional father and son moment lol
I can't wait to do that with my son once he is a bit older

Deye243;
That sounds about right I’d say
From the feedback that I've read for a while..


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Post by niteowl » 15 Aug 2020, 10:41 pm

As a gunsmith since 1968, NO.
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Post by Blr243 » 16 Aug 2020, 12:39 am

I would not buy a pump 22. If I’m shooting a 22 I want super precise shot placement and I think a bolt gun is the best for that ..I have a rem pump 308 and a marlin lever 4570. And a rem 300 blackout ...I’m happy with the current quality of these rifles
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Post by Ziege » 16 Aug 2020, 1:16 am

would I buy a remington??

hell no, now I say this as the owner of two. but in todays market with Howa, Bergara, Weatherby, Ruger, Sabatti, Rosslinger, Blaser, Winchester, Savage, Nosler, sauer, browning, CZ, Sako, Tikka, Anschutz, Kimber, Thompson Center, all more than covering anything remington can produce, except for maybe the pump action centerfires, I cant bring myself to entertain the idea after all the dramas I have had with my Rem purchases.

Howa, Weatherby, Bergara and Sabatti being pet picks for me.
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Post by womble » 16 Aug 2020, 3:47 am

Remington. No. Except maybe in a shotgun. Actually no, it would just rust.

Ok dude. I have two words for you research/investigate.
Colt Lightning.
If that’s not the coolest name ever for a gun, I just don’t know what is. Furthermore, it genuinely is cool as f***. Real cowboys and Indians were known back in the day to exclaim, “ Dagnammit this purty lil car bean is cooool as f*** dude“
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Post by bigrich » 16 Aug 2020, 7:36 am

womble wrote:Remington. No. Except maybe in a shotgun. Actually no, it would just rust.

Ok dude. I have two words for you research/investigate.
Colt Lightning.
If that’s not the coolest name ever for a gun, I just don’t know what is. Furthermore, it genuinely is cool as f***. Real cowboys and Indians were known back in the day to exclaim, “ Dagnammit this purty lil car bean is cooool as f*** dude“
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda-prodotto.asp/l_en/idpr_145/rifles-pedersoli-lighting-pump-action-pedersoli-lightning-baby-carbine-standard-20-round.html


:lol: :lol: funny post womble. but i beleive it's pronounced "dagnabbit" , ya onary varmit ! :lol:

as a reference to this post, i said i would prefer a older 700 . well i think that rings true for me with most brands. i prefer older winchester 70's, mausers and such . but my weatherby vangaurd , early series 2 , is a well made accurate shooter . i bought it second hand to replace a sauer 100xt that was a very average shooter, and i think i'm allergic to synthetic stocks and plastic in modern rifles anyway :D
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Post by Bugman » 16 Aug 2020, 8:07 am

No. Bought an Lithgow LA101 instead. Supported the home team.
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Post by Bill » 16 Aug 2020, 8:10 am

I would buy a Remington before a Sako, seen 1 too many that just shot way too average to justify the Beretta tax.

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Post by bigpete » 16 Aug 2020, 8:27 am

Ive owned quite a few Remingtons over the years,and a " remlin ", and there's never been an issue with any of them ever. They've always been reliable and accurate. Except my old man's 788,but that was due to him lightening off the trigger heaps when he was fox shooting
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Post by TassieTiger » 16 Aug 2020, 8:45 am

Bill wrote:I would buy a Remington before a Sako, seen 1 too many that just shot way too average to justify the Beretta tax.

Quite like Model Seven's, shouldnt have sold my last 1 :thumbsup:


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Post by Ziege » 16 Aug 2020, 12:54 pm

bigpete wrote:Ive owned quite a few Remingtons over the years,and a " remlin ", and there's never been an issue with any of them ever. They've always been reliable and accurate. Except my old man's 788,but that was due to him lightening off the trigger heaps when he was fox shooting



how has reducing the trigger weight caused an issue?? mine are all as haired off as the safety catches will allow, nothing but improved accuracy can be gained by lighter triggers, they are always 100% more likely to be accurate than a long heavy trigger.... i fail to see how thats an issue.
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