Minimum rifle/barrel length

[alexjones]

Reading the above email from the police referencing the law sounds to me that if you buy a gun from factory the barrel length can be anything so long as the length stays over 75cm.

Qld is the same. Under 75cm is a cat H unless deemed a C/D and everything over is a A/B.

Rather simple.

[bladeracer]

Yes they do, my OP is 750mm OAL and has a 355mm (14") barrel.

Is it a .223? I wonder why they went so short.

[stihl88]

Yes they do, my OP is 750mm OAL and has a 355mm (14") barrel.

Is it a .223? I wonder why they went so short.

It's chambered in 350 Legend, was my choice to settle on 14", glad i did.

[Oldbloke]

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Here is the reply I got. Pretty generic and basically straight out of the rule book. Didn’t exactly answer my question, but I think that a short factory barrel is ok, but a shortened barrel to less than 50cm is a no.

Thanks for the replies.
I’ve sent an email to Vic LRD, I’ll let you know if the outcome when they reply.

No reply yet??

Yes, out of factory it's OK but we can't do it.
Could a smith get permission perhaps?

[Shootermick]

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Here is the reply I got. Pretty generic and basically straight out of the rule book. Didn’t exactly answer my question, but I think that a short factory barrel is ok, but a shortened barrel to less than 50cm is a no.

Thanks for the replies.
I’ve sent an email to Vic LRD, I’ll let you know if the outcome when they reply.

No reply yet??

Yes, out of factory it's OK but we can't do it.
Could a smith get permission perhaps?

Not sure. But I shelved the idea, decided it wasn’t worth the risk.

[Oldbloke]

In Victoria the law states that the minimum rifle length must be 750mm and you can’t shorten a barrel to under 500mm, but you can buy a rifle with a factory fitted shorter barrel, Ruger Ranch, CZ 457, Tikka T1X all come with a 16” option.
A bit contradictory.
So, would it be legal to buy a rifle from QLD with a gunsmith shortened barrel to under the 500mm but still over 750mm in total length?
Bit of wishful thinking going on here.

Just plain weird. 3.7" shorter. I'm sort of surprised you can buy them at that length, given the legislation.

[alexjones]

In Victoria the law states that the minimum rifle length must be 750mm and you can’t shorten a barrel to under 500mm, but you can buy a rifle with a factory fitted shorter barrel, Ruger Ranch, CZ 457, Tikka T1X all come with a 16” option.
A bit contradictory.
So, would it be legal to buy a rifle from QLD with a gunsmith shortened barrel to under the 500mm but still over 750mm in total length?
Bit of wishful thinking going on here.

Just plain weird. 3.7" shorter. I'm sort of surprised you can buy them at that length, given the legislation.

It says “a person must not shorten the barrel”.

So if the barrel of any length is bought from factory and the gun is over 75cm in total length it is legal because a person did not shorten it.

[Oldbloke]

In Victoria the law states that the minimum rifle length must be 750mm and you can’t shorten a barrel to under 500mm, but you can buy a rifle with a factory fitted shorter barrel, Ruger Ranch, CZ 457, Tikka T1X all come with a 16” option.
A bit contradictory.
So, would it be legal to buy a rifle from QLD with a gunsmith shortened barrel to under the 500mm but still over 750mm in total length?
Bit of wishful thinking going on here.

Just plain weird. 3.7" shorter. I'm sort of surprised you can buy them at that length, given the legislation.

It says “a person must not shorten the barrel”.

So if the barrel of any length is bought from factory and the gun is over 75cm in total length it is legal because a person did not shorten it.

Sheesh. I understand that. I'm just saying it's a bit nonsensical.

[alexjones]

In Victoria the law states that the minimum rifle length must be 750mm and you can’t shorten a barrel to under 500mm, but you can buy a rifle with a factory fitted shorter barrel, Ruger Ranch, CZ 457, Tikka T1X all come with a 16” option.
A bit contradictory.
So, would it be legal to buy a rifle from QLD with a gunsmith shortened barrel to under the 500mm but still over 750mm in total length?
Bit of wishful thinking going on here.

Just plain weird. 3.7" shorter. I'm sort of surprised you can buy them at that length, given the legislation.

It says “a person must not shorten the barrel”.

So if the barrel of any length is bought from factory and the gun is over 75cm in total length it is legal because a person did not shorten it.

Sheesh. I understand that. I'm just saying it's a bit nonsensical.

Oh sorry my mistake.

Of course it's nonsensical man. All gun laws excluding a criminal background check are.

[alexjones]

The dumbest law of them all is you can keep a pistol in your safe at home but can't shoot it on private land. Not to mention pump rifles are safe but heaven forbid a pump 12guage.

[Oldbloke]

The dumbest law of them all is you can keep a pistol in your safe at home but can't shoot it on private land. Not to mention pump rifles are safe but heaven forbid a pump 12guage.

Fair enough.

Yeh, 12g pump, lol. Sooo,,,stupid.

[stihl88]

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[on_one_wheel]

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Should've busted that out when the antis were freaking out over the Adler a110

[stihl88]

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Should've busted that out when the antis were freaking out over the Adler a110

I've got long arms but I wouldn't be game enough to try it on my A110, i recon i'd need new teeth pretty quickly.

[alexjones]

Cleavers had a 12 gauge lever for sale not that long ago like that. But it was a cat H because it was under 75cm. I wanted to buy it but had no money at the time.

A 12 gauge pistol lever action would be cool for shooting steel.

[Wapiti]

I got a pistol grip to fit on my Rem 870 Marine pump shotty from Cleavers... it has a 5-shot mag and a short cylinder barrel, and originally has a 4-shots-extra Speed-Feed stock because it was a left over from a Custom's illegal boat boarding gun order.
I was told that Cat C has no length stated as has been said in this thread already, so it was quite legal for me to fit. It does not turn a Cat C into a H. Don't know where that came from but I'm not surprised.
Basically, it turned it into one of those "Mares Legs".
Anyway it was f'ing useless, slow and imprecise to get a bead on anything but a fools ego and took 5x longer to recover from recoil and get a decent bead.
It wears a Magpul 870 buttstock now and I ditched the awful Speed-Feed. No idea where the pistol grip ended up either.