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Sound moderators should be legalised

Post by NukeBOMB88 » 01 Sep 2016, 8:18 pm

I reackon with this report we surely must have a chance of getting sound moderators legalised for general shooters:

http://ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cg ... uworks2011

Maybe the Liberal Democratic Party should get David Leyonhjelm to put this forward as a change?
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Post by AusTac » 01 Sep 2016, 8:50 pm

What? Are you serious? We can't have these dangerous things in society people will be having silent contacts on the street, and we won't know where the rounds are coming from! Geeez didn't you do your suppresor research? They are just way to dangerous for us regular plebs

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Post by NukeBOMB88 » 01 Sep 2016, 9:03 pm

Eh it'll happen sooner or later. It just makes sense to make them legal
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Post by knowsnothin » 01 Sep 2016, 11:09 pm

report was written in 2011.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 02 Sep 2016, 5:43 am

It's a well known fact that sound moderators turn perfectly normal people into stealth murderous assassins. .

Along with that, if they were to become legal, criminals would suddenly have access to them because as we know, moderators don't exist on the black market.

It's also worth noting that criminals would prefer to attach something to the muzzle of their firearm to make it up to ~10" longer and reducing that massive BANG BANG BANG! noise would make drive by shootings all the more intimidating.

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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Sep 2016, 6:54 am

I don't know why they call em silencers, ain't nothing silent about them, I still hear a muzzle blast when they are used, the reduce the blast but it sure as s**t ain't silent!

And the even funnier part is we all own one now, it called a muffler, the thing attached to your exhaust system was a result of the first silencer believe it or not! :D
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Post by NukeBOMB88 » 02 Sep 2016, 10:37 am

knowsnothin wrote:report was written in 2011.


Yeah I know I'm just wondering why no one has put it forward to the government
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Post by bigfellascott » 02 Sep 2016, 10:58 am

NukeBOMB88 wrote:
knowsnothin wrote:report was written in 2011.


Yeah I know I'm just wondering why no one has put it forward to the government


How do you know they haven't. :unknown:
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Post by wade06 » 02 Sep 2016, 10:59 am

Hopefully one day it will happen... the problem is that the general public thinks that a silencer will make a colt 45 sound like a quiet cough and everyone who has one is a hitman.... :roll:

Would love one on my 22 for knocking off Indian mynas :lol:
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Post by HulkFury » 02 Sep 2016, 11:52 am

I'm sure eventually, like 20 years or so (assuming guns aren't banned or silent propellant is invented) , that sound moderators will become compulsory like seat belts and motorcycle helmets.
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Post by GLS_1956 » 02 Sep 2016, 12:37 pm

Suppressors are getting more and more popular in the USA. Many states, my home State of Oklahoma being one of them, now allow them for hunting. There is a move to have them removed off of the Class 3 category.
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Post by NukeBOMB88 » 02 Sep 2016, 1:26 pm

wade06 wrote:
Would love one on my 22 for knocking off Indian mynas :lol:


I can't even begin to describe the depth of my dislike for those bloody flying rats! :lol: :lol: :twisted:
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Post by Ed9362 » 03 Sep 2016, 10:36 pm

In fifty years the only things that will will be legal in Australia will be coffee and TV so we can stay up all night and day watching what the media and government want us to think
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Post by Squiddy » 05 Sep 2016, 2:10 pm

Ed9362 wrote:In fifty years the only things that will will be legal in Australia will be coffee and TV so we can stay up all night and day watching what the media and government want us to think


They'll ban coffee because of the caffeine and TV will be so heavily restricted it will basically be the teletubbies reading the news.
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Post by MR. WINCHESTER » 05 Sep 2016, 7:06 pm

Ed9362 wrote:In fifty years the only things that will will be legal in Australia will be coffee and TV so we can stay up all night and day watching what the media and government want us to think


Unfortunately, the Guvmint has proved itself way less subtle than that which you suggest.

Fines / penalties, are the order of the day ....
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Post by Tank » 05 Sep 2016, 8:09 pm

Ed9362 wrote:In fifty years the only things that will will be legal in Australia will be coffee and TV so we can stay up all night and day watching what the media and government want us to think


I'm not so sure.
Since JWH's great crusade 20 years ago Licencing take up in SA has increased by 29%......we're a growing minority. With that growth comes greater weight to lobby government.
Proactive and positive action by shooters including all facets of shooting sports is what's needed to get stuff over the line. Sitting on our hands bitching won't solve any thing.
Join the SSAA, join your local club, whatever they shoot. Growing numbers is what's needed. Instead of eating our young we need to encourage them!
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Post by on_one_wheel » 05 Sep 2016, 8:18 pm

:lol: SSAA :lol:
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Post by Tank » 05 Sep 2016, 8:33 pm

on_one_wheel wrote::lol: SSAA :lol:


Join anyone you like....
If it's pro shooting sports....get on it.
Laugh all you like but being a part of something is better than bitching and doing nothing or would you advocate against memberships in general?
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Post by Releb » 06 Sep 2016, 2:37 pm

GLS_1956 wrote:Suppressors are getting more and more popular in the USA. Many states, my home State of Oklahoma being one of them, now allow them for hunting.


Heaps of hunters would love them here, I'm sure.

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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Sep 2016, 3:39 pm

Releb wrote:
GLS_1956 wrote:Suppressors are getting more and more popular in the USA. Many states, my home State of Oklahoma being one of them, now allow them for hunting.


Heaps of hunters would love them here, I'm sure.

Including me.


Taken em or leave em for me, happy either way and ain't interested in having to pay a fee of some sort just to reduce the noise a bit, I don't care how much noise I make when out hunting :D
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Post by deadkitty » 05 Oct 2016, 1:16 pm

I'd like one, then my neighbors would be happier when I'm working up new loads...... They are an OH&S requirement in the UK and it's considered very rude not to use one in Germany and many other places in Europe.....sigh...one day....
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Post by bigfellascott » 05 Oct 2016, 4:02 pm

I just modified the "Silencer" on my chainsaw (did the Muffler Mod), it's louder now :lol:
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Post by Gwion » 06 Oct 2016, 7:48 am

Why on earth would you want a LOUDER saw, BigFella???

Quieter the better, in my book. Gets on my nerves after a few hours cutting.
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Post by Lorgar » 06 Oct 2016, 9:01 am

bigfellascott wrote:Taken em or leave em for me, happy either way and ain't interested in having to pay a fee of some sort just to reduce the noise a bit, I don't care how much noise I make when out hunting :D


I would love one, and would/will buy if they're legalised.

It's not about noise while hunting... I'm not worried about startling the grass :lol: I'm worried about my hearing.

If it was 25% quieter at the range (that f-ing tin roof at Little River) and it reduced the peak enough I could walk around hunting without ear muffs that would do me just fine.
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Post by Gwion » 06 Oct 2016, 9:31 am

Just looked up the Sauer 100. Has an optional suppressor to suit. If and when we are ever allowed ready access to moderators, i want one of those!!!
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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Oct 2016, 9:32 am

Gwion wrote:Why on earth would you want a LOUDER saw, BigFella???

Quieter the better, in my book. Gets on my nerves after a few hours cutting.


Not so much that I wanted a louder saw as such G, just that when you do the Muffler Mod (allows more air in and out so you get a better more usable saw with more grunt when needed) it's not hugely more noisy just a little more noticeable I guess and muffs or plugs will see that it's not an issue anyway. :thumbsup:

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Post by bigfellascott » 06 Oct 2016, 9:40 am

Lorgar wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Taken em or leave em for me, happy either way and ain't interested in having to pay a fee of some sort just to reduce the noise a bit, I don't care how much noise I make when out hunting :D


I would love one, and would/will buy if they're legalised.

It's not about noise while hunting... I'm not worried about startling the grass :lol: I'm worried about my hearing.

If it was 25% quieter at the range (that f-ing tin roof at Little River) and it reduced the peak enough I could walk around hunting without ear muffs that would do me just fine.


Only time I wear ear muffs whilst out hunting is when sitting off a rabbit warren where I know I will be doing a high volume of shooting, other than that I generally don't bother with them unless shooting out of the vehicle where the noise can be amplified to some degree but for stalking or whistling type hunts I don't bother as I know I'm only shooting maybe once or twice anyway.

I had a hearing test the other day and all good, very good in fact and all within normal hearing levels for my age or slightly better which was good to hear! :D
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Post by Norton » 07 Oct 2016, 2:53 pm

They have a health/hearing benefit and contrary to movies don't make centrefire rifles whisper silently.

That's all the debate should be. Not all our stupid polly / nanny state nonsense.

If you personally don't want one don't buy one.

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Post by bigfellascott » 07 Oct 2016, 3:03 pm

Norton wrote:They have a health/hearing benefit and contrary to movies don't make centrefire rifles whisper silently.

That's all the debate should be. Not all our stupid polly / nanny state nonsense.

If you personally don't want one don't buy one.

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That's my thoughts on it too, sadly we don't really have an option to buy one :unknown: and personally I wouldn't waste the $$ on one anyway for the types of shooting I do ($300-$400 or more no doubt by the time that add some sort of license and purchase fee etc to em) as we know the Gov't love screwing people out of their hard earned at any given opportunity. :thumbsdown:

We are probably lucky we don't have to pay a fee or some sort of license to have the suppressors we have now :D
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Post by Mr.Seacucumber » 07 Oct 2016, 3:28 pm

If you want them write into your local pollies, get a few more people to do it, ask Hanson if she could possibly try and give it a shot. I dunno people really need to be more proactive if you want s**t done.
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