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[MG5150]

Earlier this year I had scored access to a property where a farmer wanted to wild dogs and foxes taken care of. I was stalking a fallow deer in the state forest bordereing his farm when I put up two dogs that ran through the fence onto his block.

As I was driving past the front of the property I noticed a sign and gave him a call letting him know what I'd seen and just a heads up incase he was running stock and he invited me on to shoot the dogs if they came back.

The first night I was on the block and had already been shooting for a few hours when I heard a really loud bang from very close by (around 10pm in winter). A few minutes later a 4wd came driving along the road and was shining a spotlight into his front paddock and pulled up to have a look. I was 400m away on the hill and too far to see anything specific, so shone my O'light back at them and they took off.

About 90 minutes later I could see torch beams shinging and walking along the fence edge of his neighbours' from another access road heading towards the direction of the first shot.

I let the owner know the next day and he passed on the info to the local copper.

Today this has just come out, I sent it to the farmer and he confirmed it was the same guy

[bigrich]

the less ratbags out there doing the wrong thing the better

[No1Mk3]

Good stuff, one more muppet gone. These types of cretin not only shoot deer but often shoot livestock, neighbour of a friend up around Boho had a ram shot recently.

[MG5150]

Good stuff, one more muppet gone. These types of cretin not only shoot deer but often shoot livestock, neighbour of a friend up around Boho had a ram shot recently.

Bastards! Someone put three shots into a cow in Mansfield/Merrijig earlier in the year.

[Wapiti]

There is no shortage of these people, legal or not.
But at least some coppers will chase this up, instead of condoning it by ignoring it.

[Wm.Traynor]

Good on you MG5150

[womble]

If he has a firearms prohibition order in Vic he genuinely is a piece of human garbage.
The charges are serious and hopefully the magistrate makes an example of him.
Police have been busy in Vic removing firearms from undesirables. A lot of raids since the two officers were killed.

[MG5150]

There is no shortage of these people, legal or not.
But at least some coppers will chase this up, instead of condoning it by ignoring it.

We've got a pretty good copper in our local area, he's a shooter/hunter himself and has a good relationship with everyone in town. I'd say he's hit the jackpot in terms of where he's been stationed too

[Wapiti]

There is no shortage of these people, legal or not.
But at least some coppers will chase this up, instead of condoning it by ignoring it.

We've got a pretty good copper in our local area, he's a shooter/hunter himself and has a good relationship with everyone in town. I'd say he's hit the jackpot in terms of where he's been stationed too

Unfortunately we have the opposite.
My neighbour was run off the road here during the week by a cruiser ute with two roadrunners in it clearly with rifles, he sent me the video he'd given the local cops. He was told that we are the problem because we tempt people when they can see targets in our paddocks.
"well there are deer on your property, did you expect any different?"
I was told the same, in fact, in front of my visiting old man, "well, you persist with breeding deer", I'm asking for it apparently.

We saw a TV show from Texas where there are special cops who defend property owners and actively chase poachers with 3D archery targets, night raids and really back their communities. Serving their communities. Totally opposite the "serving their political masters agendas" that we get here.

Great to see down south, where there seems to be a "hunting" culture rather than a "shooting" one, that you get some support.

[mchughcb]

Spotlighters spotlighting spotlighters. Glad that's all sorted out. Now you can go back to hunting in peace.

[MG5150]

There is no shortage of these people, legal or not.
But at least some coppers will chase this up, instead of condoning it by ignoring it.

We've got a pretty good copper in our local area, he's a shooter/hunter himself and has a good relationship with everyone in town. I'd say he's hit the jackpot in terms of where he's been stationed too

Unfortunately we have the opposite.
My neighbour was run off the road here during the week by a cruiser ute with two roadrunners in it clearly with rifles, he sent me the video he'd given the local cops. He was told that we are the problem because we tempt people when they can see targets in our paddocks.
"well there are deer on your property, did you expect any different?"
I was told the same, in fact, in front of my visiting old man, "well, you persist with breeding deer", I'm asking for it apparently.

We saw a TV show from Texas where there are special cops who defend property owners and actively chase poachers with 3D archery targets, night raids and really back their communities. Serving their communities. Totally opposite the "serving their political masters agendas" that we get here.

Great to see down south, where there seems to be a "hunting" culture rather than a "shooting" one, that you get some support.

That's so dumb, it's like blaming the local jewler for getting robbed because the criminals liked the look of his merchandise...

[bigrich]

There is no shortage of these people, legal or not.
But at least some coppers will chase this up, instead of condoning it by ignoring it.

We've got a pretty good copper in our local area, he's a shooter/hunter himself and has a good relationship with everyone in town. I'd say he's hit the jackpot in terms of where he's been stationed too

Unfortunately we have the opposite.
My neighbour was run off the road here during the week by a cruiser ute with two roadrunners in it clearly with rifles, he sent me the video he'd given the local cops. He was told that we are the problem because we tempt people when they can see targets in our paddocks.
"well there are deer on your property, did you expect any different?"
I was told the same, in fact, in front of my visiting old man, "well, you persist with breeding deer", I'm asking for it apparently.

We saw a TV show from Texas where there are special cops who defend property owners and actively chase poachers with 3D archery targets, night raids and really back their communities. Serving their communities. Totally opposite the "serving their political masters agendas" that we get here.

Great to see down south, where there seems to be a "hunting" culture rather than a "shooting" one, that you get some support.

That's so dumb, it's like blaming the local jewler for getting robbed because the criminals liked the look of his merchandise...

very good analogy . also very freakin' sad that's the attitude of police sworn to uphold the law and protect the public

[womble]

They’re not sworn to protect the public. This isn’t the USA.

Important to know that here. If you are under threat the police may not do anything if it puts their own safety at risk.
Partly why the castle doctrine is needed.

I used to assume otherwise, but there was a case in Vic a few years back. Domestic violence incident. A man lit a woman on fire at a petrol station. A policeman who was there filmed it to use for evidence.

Good police work. Didn’t help the victim though.

That’s not to say police don’t ever intervene. Vast majority good people who want to help. But they re not obligated by oath.
They do have ohs guidelines though.

Off on a different tangent again. Not the topic at hand,
We do have a lot of this crap in Vic. Fence cutters, shooting signs, trespassing, shooting water tanks. You name it.
I celebrate someone being caught and prosecuted. It’s rare.

[bigrich]

They’re not sworn to protect the public. This isn’t the USA.

Important to know that here. If you are under threat the police may not do anything if it puts their own safety at risk.
Partly why the castle doctrine is needed.

I used to assume otherwise, but there was a case in Vic a few years back. Domestic violence incident. A man lit a woman on fire at a petrol station. A policeman who was there filmed it to use for evidence.

Good police work. Didn’t help the victim though.

That’s not to say police don’t ever intervene. Vast majority good people who want to help. But they re not obligated by oath.
They do have ohs guidelines though.

Off on a different tangent again. Not the topic at hand,
We do have a lot of this crap in Vic. Fence cutters, shooting signs, trespassing, shooting water tanks. You name it.
I celebrate someone being caught and prosecuted. It’s rare.

one would expect being sworn to protect the public as being a basic duty , i suppose back in the day loyalty to the crown was a higher priority
a lot of ratbag stuff happens in rural QLD too . wapati has detailed some of the stuff that happens in his neck of the woods, with very little care or priority from his local coppers . thankfully they not all cops are like that .heard a few tales from tenterfeild locals about a copper they had years ago who was a bit more like "dirty harry" at sorting out problems for the community there. and they liked and respected him for it too

[womble]

They don't swear an oath to protect the public here
That's not their job.

Yes in the 80's police were very trigger happy here. But it wasn't necessarily a good thing.
Particularly in rural areas.
A few cases of "suicide" where the individual shot themselves several times in the head.
A lot of organised crime and corruption through the 90's

We haven't had a royal inquest for a while and there is much to suggest we're well overdue

[Wapiti]

My wife was a copper for 10 years in Qld and left because of the attitudes of the people and the superiors and what the general attitude towards the public not "in the job".
Many police look at the public sweating blood to pay taxes to pay their speed camera overtime as the enemy.
For example, in her country role they would come across terrible car accidents on highways and usually the ambulance paramedics would be there first, because they police would be faffing around at domestic violence or drug issues etc.
But if they weren't, and she could see that if someone involved needed immediate help like stemming blood loss or whatever, she'd climb in and try her best to help the people who would surely die (her assessment) without help.
She'd get huge trouble for it too, she was told "we don't get our hands dirty, we are not blood mops" bullsh*t for helping people and would mercilessly be victimised by anyone of higher rank. She loved the job but she did not fit in at all with their "us and them" down-looking attitude towards the public.
Now, she looks after their health better than they would get anywhere else, because she knows their issues.

Personally we have best friends both male and female unfortunate to be still police, and you would not believe the mental health issues that the real genuine cops are suffering because of all this bullsh*t. So bad I will never mention here. Suffice to say, if one of you have these mental health issues and are openly getting treatment for it, you would not have a firearms license. But these coppers are told to strap one on and go do the governments bidding, who cares. Do you know how many police suicide at their desks with their cheap plastic pistols that they are scared of? But ssshhhhh, keep it quiet.

I stir them up when I say, well, not everyone is good enough to be a tradie or an engineer, people like you need jobs too. But it's on them to either care for the people, or care for the "man".
But some of them are just narcissistic types, and it is they who rise up the chain and negatively influence the lower ranks who still try to help their communities.