Roos.... outer East of Melourne

[<<Genesis93>>]

I've noticed in the last few years more and more roos around the outer east of Melbourne.

We are on some acres and we now have a mob of Roos and the odd Wallaby on our place (need a permit to even 'shoo' them)... we NEVER had them before...

on another property similarly located I hadnt seen a single Roo on it for 25 yrs then suddenly its a Roo-fest (with the drought a few yrs back)

....and today I was on a Warburton Hwy property in Lilydale, very close to Lilydale 'township'... and theres a mob literally metres from the highway, scared them off, then theres another mob

This wont end well Roos+highway.

When will this silliness end?, ie, when will our leaders say OK....control you Rabbits... control your foes... AND your Roos!!??

as far as the deer.... with heavy restrictions on shooting and the 'dont shoot bambi' mentality.... they will start meeting vehicles on the highway similarly close to Lilydale shortly...

rant over...

This 'preserve the natives' business is nonsense when the numbers are out of control.


now its over.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Do you have the keep full of provisions?
Is the front door barricaded ?
Is the moon falling ?
Do you lie awake at night, worrying about stupid s**t .... ALL THE f***ing time ?

P.S. I despise suspicious pricks like you.

[bigfellascott]

Do you have the keep full of provisions?
Is the front door barricaded ?
Is the moon falling ?
Do you lie awake at night, worrying about stupid s**t .... ALL THE f***ing time ?

P.S. I despise suspicious pricks like you.

Have a Bex and a Lay Down, hopefully that will make you feel better instead of the attacky little angry ant that you appear to be all the time.

On the upside the NSW Govt is looking at removing the red tape when it comes to controlling natives such as Kangaroos, Wombats, all manner of birds and emus too which will make life a lot easier for farmers who have had to jump through all manner of hoops if they wanted to control these pests legally.

[bigfellascott]

I also see a Rusa Deer got cleaned up around Bondi I think it was - they are everywhere now, I've even got Sambar in my neck of the woods (Central Tablelands NSW) and don't get me started on roos and wombats - I pass paddocks daily that have a good mob of 50 or more at times in them, more bloody roos that sheep in some of em and wombats well you pretty much see them dead everywhere on the roads around my parts and if they aren't dead they soon will be if they keep standing in the middle of the roads the way they do.

I reckon just about every time I go for a spotlight I would see close to a dozen in the paddocks on any of the properties I shoot on, my area is lousy with them to be honest, the farmers hate them as a rule as they can cause so much damage it's not funny (they love excavating in dam walls which never ends well and in the sides of culverts along the roads around here are favorite places for them to make their homes which never ends well for them (often see them dead on the sides of the roads near their burrows) driving around here at night can be somewhat of a game of Russian Roulette at times and you really have to be switched on and ready as the roos and wombats will just dart out at the last minute which results in some expensive repair bills depending on what you are driving (I've cleaned a few skips up this year so far but have been lucky it was in my 4wd which has a good bullbar on it and only damage has been to the mounts which are designed to be the weak link so easy and cheaply enough to sort out but not much good if they run in the side of you!

[<<Genesis93>>]

Do you have the keep full of provisions?
Is the front door barricaded ?
Is the moon falling ?
Do you lie awake at night, worrying about stupid s**t .... ALL THE f***ing time ?

P.S. I despise suspicious pricks like you.

WTF are you on?? did you miss a dose perhaps?

[deadkitty]

Wow fancy that rooś in Lilydale!, they used to be much closer to the city, I remember them hopping around my high school in Moorolbark. Just what is the problem with having some native wildlife around the place?, I understand your concerns about the possibility of collisions with cars when they're next to the highway, but really?. If you don't like wildlife, then stay out of rural areas, Most people are happy to see some iconic aussie wildlife around the place, some of us even get paid for it. On the deer, if they have been spreading, you can thank the previous Vic, Tasmanian and NSW governments and the Game council for listing them as "game "instead of pests, you can also thank those ignorant shooters who deliberately relocated deer...and pigs ... into new areas so they'd have something to shoot. Yes there are the "don't shot bambi" mob they're not greenips it's a rooes by the way. they are people like PETA. Real greenies have no problem whatsoever shooting introduced species, as for roo's being , "out of control", many species of Wallaby are threatened or endangered and many shooters do not discriminate,

[gazza]

I have counted over 100 in a mob near me. They barely have to move conditions are so good. They will come down in summer and hammer the paddocks.

[Gwion]

There have been mobs of 'roos as close to Melb as La Trobe Uni and the confluence of the Yarra & Mullum Mullum Creek (jut east of Templestow) for DECADES.

[bigfellascott]

Anyone seeing less roos these days or more? for me it's definitely more compared to years gone by and with all this rain we have been having I would say the numbers are only going to grow. I nearly cleaned up a mob of about 40 or so at Mt Panarama a few mths back on the way to the Gun Club, they came barreling out onto the road, bloody close I can tell ya but just managed to stop in time.

[gazza]

The mobs are all larger in S.A. Plenty of grass and water.

[<<Genesis93>>]

There have been mobs of 'roos as close to Melb as La Trobe Uni and the confluence of the Yarra & Mullum Mullum Creek (jut east of Templestow) for DECADES.

-North and northeast, yes, many roos, always been there, always anticipate a Roo on or ner the road when traveling.
-Around Lilydale, around the Urban fringe / farming areas - NEVER until the drought brought them in.

[happyhunter]

Anyone seeing less roos these days or more? for me it's definitely more compared to years gone by and with all this rain we have been having I would say the numbers are only going to grow. I nearly cleaned up a mob of about 40 or so at Mt Panarama a few mths back on the way to the Gun Club, they came barreling out onto the road, bloody close I can tell ya but just managed to stop in time.

No more or less than in the past. The numbers fluctuate with the conditions. I see them in town on the main street on people's front lawns on my morning run, and this town has 3000 residents and is pretty urbanized. The local town mob is around 200 strong. They don't seem to be causing any problems.

There is an increase in road kill but that is more to do with city people moving out here and not changing their driving habits at dawn and dusk.

[happyhunter]

, you can also thank those ignorant shooters who deliberately relocated deer...and pigs ... into new areas so they'd have something to shoot. ,

..and you have proof of this? That claim was made by the local Greens candidate a few years back.

There are deer parts of Central Victoria that weren't there a decade ago and it has nothing to do with deliberate release or migrating animals. The deer escaped from a two deer farms that had fences damaged by storms. The same goes for the pigs that people are reporting in Wombat forest. They have been there for decades, the result of escaped domestic stock.

[bigfellascott]

Wow fancy that rooś in Lilydale!, they used to be much closer to the city, I remember them hopping around my high school in Moorolbark. Just what is the problem with having some native wildlife around the place?, I understand your concerns about the possibility of collisions with cars when they're next to the highway, but really?. If you don't like wildlife, then stay out of rural areas, Most people are happy to see some iconic aussie wildlife around the place, some of us even get paid for it. On the deer, if they have been spreading, you can thank the previous Vic, Tasmanian and NSW governments and the Game council for listing them as "game "instead of pests, you can also thank those ignorant shooters who deliberately relocated deer...and pigs ... into new areas so they'd have something to shoot. Yes there are the "don't shot bambi" mob they're not greenips it's a rooes by the way. they are people like PETA. Real greenies have no problem whatsoever shooting introduced species, as for roo's being , "out of control", many species of Wallaby are threatened or endangered and many shooters do not discriminate,

I wanna shake the hand of whom ever it was that managed to get a mob of Sambar delivered to my area - well done I say on getting the big brown sacred cow up here, can't of been easy getting them loaded up.

[doc]

Anyone seeing less roos these days or more? for me it's definitely more compared to years gone by and with all this rain we have been having I would say the numbers are only going to grow. I nearly cleaned up a mob of about 40 or so at Mt Panarama a few mths back on the way to the Gun Club, they came barreling out onto the road, bloody close I can tell ya but just managed to stop in time.

Definitely more in my neck of the woods. I've seen hundreds (that's literally - not an exaggeration) bounding across a paddock before where in the past we'd see a mob 1/10th of that size.

From my own observations I believe that the numbers are definitely growing - at least in my area.

What's this about requiring a permit to 'Shoo' them though? Is that for real?

[<<Genesis93>>]

.........What's this about requiring a permit to 'Shoo' them though? Is that for real?

That my understanding when reading the permit to control;

10 What actions are you currently taking to manage the issues identified in section 9? Include any measures you have taken with regards to fencing or restricting wildlife access to property or crops. Attach a separate sheet if required.

11.What activities are you proposing to undertake to manage the wildlife problem? For example: scaring, shooting, trapping and shooting, trapping and release, destroying eggs and nests

Perhaps I'm mis-reading the permit(authority) but it reads as if you need to ontain the authority prior to 'scaring' the roos...

[bigfellascott]

The scaring would be for birds using one of the cannon gun thingy's I would think (ie around orchards). Some choose to shoot them with shotguns others choose to scare them to the next door neighbours to make it their problem.

[kodiak74]

I walk the dogs out at Woodlands Park - just across from Tullamarine airport, and have seen 3-4 mobs of around 20-30 roos each. Apparently there are some control measures in place/ planned, but that number of roos in close proximity to the airport is not a good thing. I have already seen them on the verge of the highway (i.e. got through one high mesh fence) - only one more fence to get through before they get to the departure gates !!!

[<<Genesis93>>]

I'd be surprised if that permit covers gas guns.... but nothing surprises me anymore...

[happyhunter]

I walk the dogs out at Woodlands Park - just across from Tullamarine airport, and have seen 3-4 mobs of around 20-30 roos each. Apparently there are some control measures in place/ planned, but that number of roos in close proximity to the airport is not a good thing. I have already seen them on the verge of the highway (i.e. got through one high mesh fence) - only one more fence to get through before they get to the departure gates !!!

There's a bloke with a self loader that takes care of the ones that get through. There was a cull not long back at Woodlands too.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Do you have the keep full of provisions?
Is the front door barricaded ?
Is the moon falling ?
Do you lie awake at night, worrying about stupid s**t .... ALL THE f***ing time ?

P.S. I despise suspicious pricks like you.

Have a Bex and a Lay Down, hopefully that will make you feel better instead of the attacky little angry ant that you appear to be all the time.

On the upside the NSW Govt is looking at removing the red tape when it comes to controlling natives such as Kangaroos, Wombats, all manner of birds and emus too which will make life a lot easier for farmers who have had to jump through all manner of hoops if they wanted to control these pests legally.

Not everyone is a 'Jolly Good Fellow' like you ....

And, yes .... I have my ups and downs and get riled by narrow-mindedness, people who drive in the right lane,arsehole coppers who hate bikers with 'noisy' pipes and people who shoot F**king Boitos and Berettas !

[happyhunter]

[quote]...and people who shoot F**king Boitos and *Berettas* !

You just p155ed off 900,000 Sicilians.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

900,000 Sicilians ain't my worry ...

BFS, is the crux of my concerns.

[<<Genesis93>>]

...and people who shoot F**king Boitos and *Berettas* !

You just p155ed off 900,000 Sicilians.

...and about 20,000,000 main-landers (Italians...)

[<<Genesis93>>]

....Not everyone is a 'Jolly Good Fellow' like you ....

And, yes .... I have my ups and downs and get riled by narrow-mindedness, people who drive in the right lane,arsehole coppers who hate bikers with 'noisy' pipes and people who shoot F**king Boitos and Berettas !

Good... very good winny...
The first step is admitting you have a problem

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Again ...

Could not care any less about the Eyties or Brazilians.

Am only thinkinking about our good friend, BFS.

[duncan61]

the permit is similar to the one we use in the west.You need the reg 6 licence to take for sale and in areas that have a population of people you have to apply for a reg 5 damage licence to take a certain amount of wildlife causing damage.A wildlife officer will check the property and allocate a certain amount of tags per year

[bigfellascott]

the permit is similar to the one we use in the west.You need the reg 6 licence to take for sale and in areas that have a population of people you have to apply for a reg 5 damage licence to take a certain amount of wildlife causing damage.A wildlife officer will check the property and allocate a certain amount of tags per year

I think that's the problem Duncan., farmers are over asking permission to control pests - maybe it's time to take a step back to the old days and let the farmers do what they know is best for their land instead of letting others tell them how it should be.

[duncan61]

I am actually waiting for my damage licence for Waroona to come in the mail.Its been 3 weeks.I called last week and enjoyed explaining how Dpaw make the rules we try to abide but come November it will dry off down there and we are going culling.They are very nice people but the system makes no sense.I can drop and rot as many as possible but need a licence to take anything of the property.I feel amatures shoot as many or more kangaroos than the handful of pros left.So I know not why they need record keeping if the data is phoney

[duncan61]

you must be in the west