Firearm homicide USA -vs- Australia.

[Jandamurra]

Hey Janda ...

Are you a card carrying NRA member ?

( Will try to create time, to address your assertions )

I don't like the NRA. They're far too mainstream and part of the problem rather than the solution. If they weren't, they'd question details of much-exploited incidents such as Sandy Hook or Orlando, or for that matter events occurring outside the US such as the Paris attacks.
These government-done false flags are such powerful ammunition, pardon the pun, that I can't take any pro-gun group seriously if they don't shout that out loud and clear.
They're kind of like a better SSAA. If there wasn't a well-established R2KBA culture in the US, they'd be just as toothlless as the SSAA.
Which reminds me, I'm not a member because I'm not an American.
I suppose I could contact them and say pretty please, can I be a member, lol.
Also, of course, your reply was completely irrelevant to the discussion.

[Jandamurra]

Crossing issues is not really a valid form of discussion.

So, your arguments are:
1/ We used to be even more violent, so we're getting better...

Also, the point you are being so obtuse about is that i am not lecturing you, i am saying, do not lecture us that we should be more like you.

Crime world-wide except maybe by governments has been going down for 50-60 years. It's a mysterious phenomenon and I don't think anyone really knows why. The US used to be more violent but so did Australia and a myriad of other countries.

[happyhunter]

Crossing issues is not really a valid form of discussion.

So, your arguments are:
1/ We used to be even more violent, so we're getting better...

Also, the point you are being so obtuse about is that i am not lecturing you, i am saying, do not lecture us that we should be more like you.

Crime world-wide except maybe by governments has been going down for 50-60 years. It's a mysterious phenomenon and I don't think anyone really knows why. The US used to be more violent but so did Australia and a myriad of other countries.

Yep, crime peeked in 1980 and has been on a steady decline since and nobody can explain why. So much for the good old days.

[deadkitty]

Oh how amusing, I find it interesting that Americans elect a President, then run around in fear of that same president becoming a new tyrant, then use that as a reason to arm themselves to the teeth, to protect themselves from the very people they elected in the first place???. And yes many still think the UK and all the former colonies of Britain are ruled by Kings and Queens...it's what they are taught at school. Short history lesson for Americans, the Kings and Queens of Great Britain have had little/no power since the days of Oliver Cromwell and the subsequent foundation of parlimentary democracy.... i.e. the USA wasn't the first.
Other points of historical fact, Christopher Columbus never ever set foot in the USA, the vikings where the first Europeans to discover America, Henry Ford did not invent the internal combustion engine and Benjamin Franklin did not invent the lightning rod or libraries........ but let's not let facts get in the way of a good story.

[wade06]

Deadkitty, i'm not sure which Americans amuse me more....

the ones who believe that their government are the new age Nazis.... must have stockpile of 100+ small arms (automatic or otherwise) to stop the US military....

or the preppers who believe civilization is about to end (normally with WW3) and spend their life building underground bunkers and stockpiling everything in preparation for that day.... dang, those baked bean tins have been here since 1962....

[Heckler303]

You'll find people from all walks of life Wade, no matter what country they're from.

I know for certain there are one or two bunkers somewhere in the Tasmanian Highlands made for the occasion. But what I'm more interested in is deadkitty's reasoning for reviving this thread.

Still a bit sore perhaps?

[happyhunter]

Mr Winchester is sounding like Mr Stoopid who forgot his meds...

Something about the beauty of motorcycles is they are light, fast and brake well, everything a Harley doesn't do. Stupid is owing a Harley

[Heckler303]

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Something about the beauty of motorcycles is they are light, fast and brake well, everything a Harley doesn't do.

rekt

[deadkitty]

Heckler... sore about what? As for reviving a thread, I'm just catching up with whats been written in the past few months, and, like Wade I find American preppers and all that end of days stuff highly amusing, some have watched too many zombie movies. Was their a point of you posting the clip of the African Americans?

[wade06]

Its an "owned" meme/gif thingy, nothing about African Americans i think.

Re preppers etc, every country has them its just America has a much higher percentage compared to anywhere else.

[deadkitty]

Thanks Wade, I still don't get it though, "owned"? means what?, I don't even have a mobile phone, (or a TV for that matter), they don't work here anyway. I might be a prepper.... live in the bush and I'm prepared for floods an bushfires, never considered a zombie apocalypse .....Cheers

[Gwion]

"Owned"..... Americanism derived from prison slang/gangland, ie: "I own your ass. " (Or arse to those of us who speak English but as we are talking about Seppos, 'ass' is the appropriate spelling.)
Common when a put down has no come back or a beating is sever and definite in one persons favour.

[Heckler303]

It was a meme, responding to the comment made by happyhunter smoothly criticizing harely davidsons. So not only did it have nothing to do with the flow of the post, but deadcat seemed to try and connect it with an older reply I made.


Catch up and ditch your 1990s linux for something decent.

[wanneroo]

Oh how amusing, I find it interesting that Americans elect a President, then run around in fear of that same president becoming a new tyrant, then use that as a reason to arm themselves to the teeth, to protect themselves from the very people they elected in the first place???. And yes many still think the UK and all the former colonies of Britain are ruled by Kings and Queens...it's what they are taught at school. Short history lesson for Americans, the Kings and Queens of Great Britain have had little/no power since the days of Oliver Cromwell and the subsequent foundation of parlimentary democracy.... i.e. the USA wasn't the first.
Other points of historical fact, Christopher Columbus never ever set foot in the USA, the vikings where the first Europeans to discover America, Henry Ford did not invent the internal combustion engine and Benjamin Franklin did not invent the lightning rod or libraries........ but let's not let facts get in the way of a good story.

Sounds like you've got projection issues. You've concocted all this stuff above in your own brain that we think this or that and it doesn't appear you have any idea.

Governments are the biggest killer of people in the world. The vast majority of those went to their deaths unarmed with no chance of arming themselves if they could. You don't understand that we don't own lots of guns to use them in self defense, we own lots of guns so we don't have to use them in self defense. Firearms are a check on tyrannical power. The founding fathers were wise enough to know we didn't defeat the Brits with sticks and stones and they knew from world history that egotistical tyrannical people were always going to be clamoring for power. It's why our Constitution is written as it is.

[happyhunter]

Another example of why / how the U.S. is totally f***ed.
There are so many contrasting jurisdictions ... 50 something States, 50 something laws / rules / issues to come to grips with !

( as compared to, an homologous Aust ! )

Yanks ... don't try and peddle your bulls**t paranoid views to Aussie shooters, without fear of copping some sort of call for explanation.
'We' are ... In general, far more relaxed concerning views relating to conspiracy / manipulation by 'big brother' ....

Unless, you listen to 'Genesis' ! Lol

Have an opinion when you have lived there for a few years. Personally I found living and working in the USA was one of the best experiences I have had. Made some good friends and most people I met were warm and friendly.

[doc]

You don't understand that we don't own lots of guns to use them in self defense, we own lots of guns so we don't have to use them in self defense.

That is probably one of the better summaries of the 2nd amendment that I've come across.

[deadkitty]

It was a meme, responding to the comment made by happyhunter smoothly criticizing harely davidsons. So not only did it have nothing to do with the flow of the post, but deadcat seemed to try and connect it with an older reply I made.


Catch up and ditch your 1990s linux for something decent.

Heckler, my Linux Mint is the 2015 edition...... enjoy your trojans and blue screens of death? you could always try https://www.linuxmint.com/ , it's you who needs to do the catching up mate.

[deadkitty]

"Owned"..... Americanism derived from prison slang/gangland, ie: "I own your ass. " (Or arse to those of us who speak English but as we are talking about Seppos, 'ass' is the appropriate spelling.)
Common when a put down has no come back or a beating is sever and definite in one persons favour.

Thanks Gwion, I have trouble speaking SMS and American street slang...... funny, I don't feel deprived though.

[deadkitty]

Oh how amusing, I find it interesting that Americans elect a President, then run around in fear of that same president becoming a new tyrant, then use that as a reason to arm themselves to the teeth, to protect themselves from the very people they elected in the first place???. And yes many still think the UK and all the former colonies of Britain are ruled by Kings and Queens...it's what they are taught at school. Short history lesson for Americans, the Kings and Queens of Great Britain have had little/no power since the days of Oliver Cromwell and the subsequent foundation of parlimentary democracy.... i.e. the USA wasn't the first.
Other points of historical fact, Christopher Columbus never ever set foot in the USA, the vikings where the first Europeans to discover America, Henry Ford did not invent the internal combustion engine and Benjamin Franklin did not invent the lightning rod or libraries........ but let's not let facts get in the way of a good story.

Sounds like you've got projection issues. You've concocted all this stuff above in your own brain that we think this or that and it doesn't appear you have any idea.

Governments are the biggest killer of people in the world. The vast majority of those went to their deaths unarmed with no chance of arming themselves if they could. You don't understand that we don't own lots of guns to use them in self defense, we own lots of guns so we don't have to use them in self defense. Firearms are a check on tyrannical power. The founding fathers were wise enough to know we didn't defeat the Brits with sticks and stones and they knew from world history that egotistical tyrannical people were always going to be clamoring for power. It's why our Constitution is written as it is.

" You've concocted all this stuff ", what did I concoct?, Parlimentary demoncary? (1688: " William of Orange from Holland to take the throne from James II which led to the creation of the Bill of Rights, constitutionally preventing absolute rule by the Kings and Queens of Great Britain to this day, and leaving Parliament as the true seat of power in the country') .the vikings? (Newfoundland "The Norse colonization of the Americas began as early as the 10th century AD, when Norsemen explored and settled areas of the North Atlantic, including the northeastern fringes of North America), invention of the internal combustion engine? ( In 1798, John Stevens built the first internal combustion engine. ... 1896: Karl Benz invented the boxer engine, also known as the horizontally opposed engine), libraries? (Library of Alexandria "from its construction in the 3rd century BC until the Roman conquest of Egypt in 30 BC".
Other interesting facts, your 2nd Amendment was just that...and amendment to your constiution, ( was adopted on December 15, 1791) 15 years after the signing of the Declaration of independence in 1776. The words "Under God" were insterted into the Pledge of Allegience by an American President during the 20th Century) America was founded in secular principles, opposed to religion As for my assertions of what is taught in American High Schools, that information was given to me via an American and their school books...which I'll admit could very well be incorrect... Have a lovely day.

[brett1868]

Since when do motorcycles brake well? or have the rules of physics changed

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Another example of why / how the U.S. is totally f***ed.
There are so many contrasting jurisdictions ... 50 something States, 50 something laws / rules / issues to come to grips with !

( as compared to, an homologous Aust ! )

Yanks ... don't try and peddle your bulls**t paranoid views to Aussie shooters, without fear of copping some sort of call for explanation.
'We' are ... In general, far more relaxed concerning views relating to conspiracy / manipulation by 'big brother' ....

Unless, you listen to 'Genesis' ! Lol

Have an opinion when you have lived there for a few years. Personally I found living and working in the USA was one of the best experiences I have had. Made some good friends and most people I met were warm and friendly.

Are you an expert in EVERTHING you have experienced .... or just plain arrogant ?

[Heckler303]

It was a meme, responding to the comment made by happyhunter smoothly criticizing harely davidsons. So not only did it have nothing to do with the flow of the post, but deadcat seemed to try and connect it with an older reply I made.


Catch up and ditch your 1990s linux for something decent.

Heckler, my Linux Mint is the 2015 edition...... enjoy your trojans and blue screens of death? you could always try https://www.linuxmint.com/ , it's you who needs to do the catching up mate.

Or you could perform simple tasks like antivirus programs and maintaining what you jave. Enjoy an operating system that is only used by people with absolutely zero knowledge in computing technology with no developer support and only two purposes being browsing and music. Even Macs have that sorted.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Mr Winchester is sounding like Mr Stoopid who forgot his meds...

Something about the beauty of motorcycles is they are light, fast and brake well, everything a Harley doesn't do. Stupid is owing a Harley

How in the f**k did I miss this ?



May I suggest / demand, that STUPID is having a closed mind, an 'opinion' that smells of the most horrid sort of venereal disease and an inability to hear and learn that which I tell you ....

Harleys are cool and Winchesters rule .... GOT IT ?

[deadkitty]

Heckler... I repeat... you need to do some catching up.... Linux Mint does everything broken windows does, I watch movies, calculate ballistics and it doesn't need me to do virus checks, it also has developer upgrades...... and it doesn't come with 50odd bloatware programs and hog my crappy internet connection doing huge updates for windows and the bloatware..... seriously, have a look, ask around, you might even thank me one day..... unlikely but Iḿ an optimist Cheers

[MR. WINCHESTER]

dk .... you impress me, regarding 'computer literacy'.

( you may wanna dumb things down, if you still insist on perpetuating your story / farce )

[deadkitty]

dk .... you impress me, regarding 'computer literacy'.

( you may wanna dumb things down, if you still insist on perpetuating your story / farce )

I use it because its simple and it works and it's free...you don't have to be a bloody genius to use it. I can't do command line stuff, on Linux or any operating system, I can't program, or read code...they teach that in primary school these days by the way. Cheers

[Heckler303]

I'm just going to sum this up for deadpuss.





I'm busy modding IL-2 Sturmovik right now, and what takes a week on a linux I can do in an afternoon with Windows 7 Premium.


Edit: And on an off note Mr. Winchester, Winchester and Harley Davidson are very similar. Very famous products, wildly renowned in movies and TV, and pop culture. Always used by the big movie heroes for saving damsels and defeating bad guys. Everything they make is always highly polished, and look really nice...

But don't function 1/3 of what anything European can.

((I still love my Winchester P14T))

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Heck .... you support dk's assertion that he has zero idea, re: puters and stuff ?

( if he / she can plough through a week of crap .... then 'they' have a superior grasp ? )

[Heckler303]

Heck .... you support dk's assertion that he has zero idea, re: puters and stuff ?

( if he / she can plough through a week of crap .... then 'they' have a superior grasp ? )

Honestly, unless the nursing lady in his old folk's home is cute, I really doubt he has much reason to move from his spot. Hence his ability to sit and wait so long.

[MR. WINCHESTER]

Lol