Cat C requirements

[Conallin24]

Hi there you probably get this kind of question a lot. My friend is getting a Cat A and B license, his genuine reason is he is a owner of 100 acres (40 hectares.) He is in Victoria. Can he apply for a Cat C as well or will he need something else? The land he has isn't his work place he just owns it. Thanks

[bladeracer]

Hi there you probably get this kind of question a lot. My friend is getting a Cat A and B license, his genuine reason is he is a owner of 100 acres (40 hectares.) He is in Victoria. Can he apply for a Cat C as well or will he need something else? The land he has isn't his work place he just owns it. Thanks

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?media_id=113523

[Gwion]

Nope. Needs to be primary producer. In Tas that means has an annual turnover of $20k, minimum, from primary production on the property.

[Apollo]

Pretty much the same in NSW. I do have a Cat C Licence and only 150 Acres BUT.. I am registered as a Primary Producer, with ABN, Registered for GST and do have an annual turnover of over $20,000 from my small farm. If that changes like dropping the Primary Producer status then I would no longer be qualified to hold a Cat C Licence.

I don't currently have a Cat C Firearm and probably never will again so doesn't worry me one way or the other if that category was dropped. I really only used a Semi-Auto to help rid the Rabbit plague on my neighbouring properties and stop them infesting me.

[Bushie]

You can get a car c for clay shooting in vic

[Supaduke]

Only for a verified medical condition.
Only for use in competition.
And I believe you have to use a tube block to limit capacity to 2 rounds.

[Bushie]

What the bloody he'll is the point of that then

[AusTac]

What the bloody he'll is the point of that then

" less recoil " in a semi due to the bolt motion etc etc

[Mitch]

And there have been many caught claiming they need the semi shotgun for shooting clays...to then have the police state they will be taking all the other high-recoiling rifles those people have

[Ed9362]

I'm no expert but I think you need to be a "declared primary producer for tax purposes". To be eligible for a cat C

Of course I could be wrong, it did happen once before a few years back

[Baronvonrort]

You have to be classified as a Primary Producer by tax dept for Cat C in NSW

[WatchyShooter]

Cat C like everyone has stated is Primary production, I'd like to see Cat C opened up to IPSC club members so Australia could have 3 Gun competitions, and having Club Use added for Cat C would be the easiest way to expand our current restrictive laws around Cat C firearms

Class C: Self loading rimfire rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than 10 rounds; self loading shotguns with a magazine capacity no greater than 5 round; pump action shotguns with a magazine capacity no greater than 5 rounds, and includes receivers.

This would only allow acces to rimfire semiauto (.22LR) with 10 round cap & 5 round pump action. Couple that with a H class license and your ready to compete in 3 Gun.

It's basically holding an entire sport back not having access to these category of firearms.

[bladeracer]

This would only allow access to rimfire semiauto (.22LR) with 10 round cap & 5 round pump action. Couple that with a H class license and your ready to compete in 3 Gun.

It's basically holding an entire sport back not having access to these category of firearms.

What's wrong with doing 3-gun with a bolt rifle?
Makes sense to use the sorts of firearms you're most likely to be using in a practical situation.

[WatchyShooter]

This would only allow access to rimfire semiauto (.22LR) with 10 round cap & 5 round pump action. Couple that with a H class license and your ready to compete in 3 Gun.

It's basically holding an entire sport back not having access to these category of firearms.

What's wrong with doing 3-gun with a bolt rifle?
Makes sense to use the sorts of firearms you're most likely to be using in a practical situation.

I've got no problem with 3-gun with bolt action or pump, all 3-gun I've seen is either pump or bolt action rifle, unless overseas, then 3-gun is predominately semi-rifle, pump shotgun, handgun.

Having another option wouldn't be a bad thing, 3 Gun IPSC could really flourish in Australia if we had a reason to compete overseas, or even draw overseas competitors here.

[bladeracer]

I've got no problem with 3-gun with bolt action or pump, all 3-gun I've seen is either pump or bolt action rifle, unless overseas, then 3-gun is predominately semi-rifle, pump shotgun, handgun.

Having another option wouldn't be a bad thing, 3 Gun IPSC could really flourish in Australia if we had a reason to compete overseas, or even draw overseas competitors here.

Do the Poms shoot 3-gun with .22LR and their blackpowder conversion revolvers?

Is that really what IPSC shooters want, to shoot internationally?
When I was shooting IPSC we had a very small cadre of national shooters, and a very few international hopefuls at my clubs.
I would think the vast majority of us had zero interest in international competition, but there were some that were happy to go interstate to shoot occasionally, despite the expense.
Most of us by far were happy to do _practical_ shooting with practical guns, not race shooting with race guns.

Do we have specific laws that make it impossible to shoot 3-gun IPSC competition here in Oz?

[WatchyShooter]

In the U.K they can also have handguns, just not In the normal way, so the UK has seen a surge of IPSC 3-Gun due to not having .22LR semis banned, and using straight pull or bolt action for centrefires.

https://youtu.be/78VDHtA-6YE

With how much I've seen 3-Gun overseas I'd love to see it flourish to the same level in Australia, it would enable our shooters to compete OS and have competitors here.

The rules that stop this kind of 3-Gun are not having a legimate reason for Cat C firearms, which is why I'd like to see it expanded to include sporting shooters, but done so in a way simaller to Cat H where it's enabled only through the club use option.

[sebrule]

Well you can get the pump shotgun with a medical certificate though you need to be part of acta as well.

[bladeracer]

The rules that stop this kind of 3-Gun are not having a legimate reason for Cat C firearms, which is why I'd like to see it expanded to include sporting shooters, but done so in a way simaller to Cat H where it's enabled only through the club use option.

I know we can't do 3-gun here with semis and pumps. I'm asking if there are any rules that prevent us from doing 3-gun competition with bolt rifles and double shotguns?

[WatchyShooter]

The rules that stop this kind of 3-Gun are not having a legimate reason for Cat C firearms, which is why I'd like to see it expanded to include sporting shooters, but done so in a way simaller to Cat H where it's enabled only through the club use option.

I know we can't do 3-gun here with semis and pumps. I'm asking if there are any rules that prevent us from doing 3-gun competition with bolt rifles and double shotguns?

There are no rules preventing 3-Gun competitions with bolt and double, or the preferred pump rifle & lever shotgun combo (Adlers have a 10 round IPSC mag available for this reason)

The current laws prevent other divisions of 3-gun that are more internationally recognised and have a larger following + international competetive scene, that's an issue that's holding back IPSC in Australia by not allowing the sport in its full capacity