GLS_1956 wrote:Well stevy there is no such thing as a stupid question, when the question is honestly asked. I've never fired a full auto firearm in my life, however a deceased cousin was career military, US Marines (Vietnam), and later US Army (Rangers/Special forces). this cousin's final duties had him involved with evaluating weapons from around the globe, when I asked him about submachineguns his opinion was the British Sterling was the best in service, he then brought up the machine pistols from Czechoslavia and one the Soviets had. Both he said were better noise makers than fighting guns.
duncan61 wrote:Shot a .45 cal 6 gun black powder in England it was super accurate
Gun-nut wrote:GLS_1956 wrote:Well stevy there is no such thing as a stupid question, when the question is honestly asked. I've never fired a full auto firearm in my life, however a deceased cousin was career military, US Marines (Vietnam), and later US Army (Rangers/Special forces). this cousin's final duties had him involved with evaluating weapons from around the globe, when I asked him about submachineguns his opinion was the British Sterling was the best in service, he then brought up the machine pistols from Czechoslavia and one the Soviets had. Both he said were better noise makers than fighting guns.
Did he speak on his thoughts of the German mp5?
brett1868 wrote:Not yet but I'm heading to California, Colorado & New Mexico on June 24th for what is essentially a gun porn road trip Already lined up a tour of Weatherby Inc in California which is friggen awesome, 5280 Armoury in Denver for machine gun rentals, Dragon Man in Colorado Springs for more guns topped off by me competing in the FCSA 50BMG world championships at the NRA Whittington center at Raton NM. I plan to post as many pictures and videos as possible but if any of the machine guns at 5280armory appeal to you, let me know and ill see if I can video one in action.
https://5280armory.com/shooting-range/
http://www.dragonmans.com/
http://www.nrawc.org/
Gwion wrote:Excuse my ignorance but can someone explain the difference between a "machine gun" (assuming full auto) and a "sub-machine gun" (again assuming also full auto). It's not my thing and the terminology has me a bit baffled.
I get the difference between "semi auto", "select fire" and "automatic"; what is a "sub-machine gun"?
sungazer wrote:Not pistols but AR and Machine gun. I have fired several times on full auto M16 and AK47 both on a bipod and freehand. Then one to debunk movies was the M60 as used by Arnold in Terminator Fired this full auto on bipod No Fing way you could fire this one handed. I was leaning into it standing up and it would push you back over a course of fire until no longer on target and I would have to reset.
wrenchman wrote:i have never shot a full auto pistol i have just thought it woul be hard to control now i am thinking i might try it
bentaz wrote:All those things are fun, but the novelty of loading large magazines and cleaning machine guns wears off quick in my opinion!
sungazer wrote:Not pistols but AR and Machine gun. I have fired several times on full auto M16 and AK47 both on a bipod and freehand. Then one to debunk movies was the M60 as used by Arnold in Terminator Fired this full auto on bipod No Fing way you could fire this one handed. I was leaning into it standing up and it would push you back over a course of fire until no longer on target and I would have to reset.
A submachine gun (SMG) is a magazine-fed, automatic carbine designed to fire pistol cartridges. The term "submachine gun" was coined by John T. Thompson, the inventor of the Thompson submachine gun.
wanneroo wrote:sungazer wrote:Not pistols but AR and Machine gun. I have fired several times on full auto M16 and AK47 both on a bipod and freehand. Then one to debunk movies was the M60 as used by Arnold in Terminator Fired this full auto on bipod No Fing way you could fire this one handed. I was leaning into it standing up and it would push you back over a course of fire until no longer on target and I would have to reset.
It can be shot one handed if you have the muscles of Ahnold or Rambo, not that you would hit much, probably. Especially easier if it's the E3 or E6 model which is about 5 pounds lighter. Personally myself I usually shoot it from the hip two handed.
The thing to remember with the 60 is that it tends to jump up high and right about the third and fourth round.
In actual practice anyways with current US military doctrine, these types of belt fed machines are usually fired in 3 or 5 round bursts at a time, usually at least two machine gun fire teams working in unison. Not to say they will not run a 50 or 100 belt through in certain situations, but mostly the guns are used to fire bursts.