JohnBoy wrote:OH... Have just been looking at the 17wsm! BEAST!!
Does that fall under Class A licensing?
sounds good in theory, but it's uncharted waters. it maybe just a fad. and ammo is pricier than factory 222/223, so why the hell bother?
JohnBoy wrote:OH... Have just been looking at the 17wsm! BEAST!!
Does that fall under Class A licensing?
suggests 22lr is the more logical choiceJohnBoy wrote: Once I sort out Class B, I will be heading for the 223..
brett1868 wrote:Get a bigger safe then buy them all is my advice. If not now then at some stage in the future you'll think back and wonder what it would have been like if you purchased the other caliber.
Biggus63 wrote:Just went through all of this recently and ended up with the HMR because it rides the wind better than the 22 mag, even then it's so windy where I am the HMR is borderline unusable most afternoons. If the wind isn't a big issue the 22 mag has a good deal more energy than the HMR, and the new 30 grain V-Max bullets are a nice compromise that helps the trajectory and drift out a bit.
What I'm really waiting on is for someone like CZ to chamber a rifle for the .17 WSM since the two offerings available, the Savage and the Ruger are undesirable for a number of reasons, but I've not seen the slightest hint of a new bolt WSM on the horizon from anyone, so it could be a long wait.
I don't really want to go to a centerfire because of sound and safety considerations. I don't really hunt as such, it's just fox control on my own relatively small property, and the WSM promises to be the perfect solution, twice the power of the HMR with ammo only 5 to 10 cents a round more. If the WSM takes off I reckon it will make the HMR obsolete. Until then I make do with my CZ 455 Varmint HMR.
Biggus63 wrote:Ok, I'll bite, what did you want with 350 empty rimfire cases?
albat wrote:I have the cz 455 with all three barrels .22lr 22 mag and hummer best deal going around for a bit over a grand i got mine for $580 bucks at the 2015 shot show in fact i bought two of em cus it was such a good deal both have performed exceptionally with any barrel i put on them great starter combo
JohnBoy wrote:albat wrote:I have the cz 455 with all three barrels .22lr 22 mag and hummer best deal going around for a bit over a grand i got mine for $580 bucks at the 2015 shot show in fact i bought two of em cus it was such a good deal both have performed exceptionally with any barrel i put on them great starter combo
Hmmm.. Now this sounds appealing! Do you have more details on this man?
Cheers
John
sungazer wrote:There is no better first rifle that a 22LR. It has one of the lowest recoils and noise. it is cheap and can be highly accurate giving the user plenty of satisfaction. It is the best rifle for learning shooting techniques with. It enable you to be able to learn follow through, shoot with both eyes open if wanted. It is cheap enough to be able to practice and practice without worry of the barrel being burnt out. More importantly all these shooting techniques involve your muscles learning muscle memory. The 22LR enable you to do this.
Bladeracer I hope you dont mind me using you as an exa,ple but if you read the Active topic in which BR is practicing for a competition in April he is shooting approx 100 shots a day. In just the last few weeks his off hand shooting skills have improved and what is more important for him he can quantifiable see the improvement because he is shooting target and keeping score. "You cant improve what you don't measure" By the time that competition comes around the rifle will feel weightless in is hand it will be as part of him.
So cheap and plentiful ammo should be a real thing to consider so should places you can shoot the 22 being able to have quite rounds means it can be shot in places the other just couldn't.
Put all that into the mix and the 22LR comes out a clear winner.
Tiger650 wrote:22LR for sure, I have just commissioned a Ruger American Rimfire which is very accurate with various inexpensive ammo.
Be mindful that you must shoot a lot to become competent and then shoot regularly to maintain skill level.
The .22LR will have you practicing essential stuff like follow through etc, actual locktime with the 22 LR [brain breaks trigger to bullet exit from muzzle] is not super fast due to relatively low velocity.
The Ruger trigger is excellent IMO and easy to adjust.
My scope is the Nikon 2-7x32 rimfire on medium height mounts that I bought on fleabay ex China, they lapped in quiet quickly with a piece of 25mm bright bar and I think cost $25.
The Ruger I bought comes with Iron sights which remain in place in case the scope is ever damaged.
Voldemort [?] will sell you goofy s**t like a short barrel threaded thing without irons for cheap but I would not do that, some folks bring in s**t that will not sell overseas and there is a reason for slightly lower price, no other bugger wants it.
You would also need a Weaver scope mount for the Ruger, mine came from Midway Aust for not much money and fitted right on.
I reckon the rifle owes me about about $900 all up and is a quality piece of gear.
bigfellascott wrote:He wants to shoot foxes regularly so not a cal really suited for foxes - plenty of better options out there that can do the job better.
scoobs wrote:Bushnell rimfire 3-12×40 or 6-18x40 is what i will be doing
bigfellascott wrote:Any decent 3-9x50 would suit that cals you're looking at.
bentaz wrote:Get both and then get a .22lr as well!