Firearm license as photo ID

[smk]

Hi all. Has anyone tried to use the firearm license as a photo ID/proof of age to actually buy alcohol with it?

[ebr love]

It's a license issued under Australian Law which has your photo and signature. Perfectly valid for proving your age.

Did you get knocked back when you tried to use it?

[Supaduke]

It may technically be a legal form of ID, you will find however that many places simply won't accept it. To most people, it's not understood the level of ID hoops you have to jump through to get a firearms licence. It's just viewed as dodgy.

So by all means try, but don't be surprised if it gets knocked back.

[on_one_wheel]

Australia Post refused to accept mine as proof of id.

[yoshie]

I just went through a Commonwealth security check and they wouldn't accept it. Drivers license and passport etc and medicare card, even excepted a video easy card and rates notice, but not firearms licence.

[southeast varmiter]

Tell them to check their own rules.
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/indivi ... r-identity

Shooters license is primary ID

[SomeoneElse]

I had AustPost accept mine for parcel collections. In retrospect, given that Vic licences have address details on them, I'll be using my drivers licence for future parcel collections. I expect AustPost will have a data breach one day. Not all states include the address on the license, so maybe that has some influence?...

It was also accepted when applying for my Passport last year.

SomeoneElse

[Oldbloke]

Australia Post refused to accept mine as proof of id.

Must hire idiots.

[No1Mk3]

Mine has been accepted in every circumstance where I have used it, including opening bank accounts. As the link southeast varmiter posted shows, it is Primary ID even for Federal Govt Departments, I have only once had to stand my ground and insist it be accepted and that situation was resolved by demanding to see the counter attendants supervisor, all other times no problem. Cheers

[sungazer]

In Aus post my face is the id. In fact I used him as one of the references. He said to himself how long have I worked here? Thats how long Ive known you. Small towns do have some advantages, lot of bad one but some good.

[pete1]

When you do your RSA course they teach you it's a acceptable level of ID.

[tom604]

i use it everywhere ,just because i want people to get used to seeing one, never been challenged or had it refused

[RoginaJack]

I never use it as "Photo I.D./ Proof of age" etc. Only when requested by Authorised Personnel that have the authority.

I often get the "I'll just take a copy of this" rubbish when proving who I am. Ever stop to think how these copies are stored/filed, who has access to the file and how long are they kept and how are they destroyed. No WAY!

[Stix]

Australia Post refused to accept mine as proof of id.

Must hire idiots.

Well thats a given Ob...
If your an idiot running a large national enterprise that the country relies on, your not about to hire intelligent folk to assist you in running the enterprise...are you...!??

By hiring idiots that can only read basic scripts, they dont have as many stress claims to deal with...

Like when folk like me demand an answer as to why my item is sitting in a depot 5 mins from me for a full week when it was posted overnight express from Qld, & why something else posted to me normally also from Qld--the day AFTER the previous item, got to me, through THE SAME DEPOT, in only 3 days...

Idiots can only run an enterprise this badly if they hire idiots mate...!!!

[on_one_wheel]

Australia Post refused to accept mine as proof of id.

Must hire idiots.

Well thats a given Ob...
If your an idiot running a large national enterprise that the country relies on, your not about to hire intelligent folk to assist you in running the enterprise...are you...!??

By hiring idiots that can only read basic scripts, they dont have as many stress claims to deal with...

Like when folk like me demand an answer as to why my item is sitting in a depot 5 mins from me for a full week when it was posted overnight express from Qld, & why something else posted to me normally also from Qld--the day AFTER the previous item, got to me, through THE SAME DEPOT, in only 3 days...

Idiots can only run an enterprise this badly if they hire idiots mate...!!!

And when you don't get the job in Australia Post, Bunnings will probably have ya ..

Watch this YouTube video about Bunnings employees

[Oldbloke]

Its unfortunate but true that employers often prefer to hire people with no experience and not particularly bright.

[Archie]

I've used it a couple of times as ID for 100pt ID checks, including for a mortgage application, while I was waiting on a replacement drivers licence card for one I'd lost. Raised an eyebrow or two but nothing beyond that. I've also handed it over (by mistake, wasn't paying attention when I pulled it out of my wallet) as ID for a credit card when starting a bar tab. Bar chick didn't bat an eyelid - which to be honest surprised me a bit.

Myself, I wouldn't use it as a normal form of ID ordinarily simply because I'm not a huge fan of any more people than necessary, who I don't know, knowing both my address and that I have a firearm licence. I sort of get Tom604's point though - it should be perfectly normal.

[Rotor]

The liquor act is very specific on acceptable forms of identification. I work in the industry in QLD and have to be up to date on legislation as part of my job.
Firearms license is not an acceptable form of ID for licensed venues.

Here is an excerpt from legislation:

"Acceptable forms of ID
Five forms of ID are acceptable in licensed venues:

an adult proof of age card (e.g. Australia Post Keypass identity card)
Australian driver licence or learner permit
foreign driver licence
passport (from any country).
The ID document must be current and include a photo of the person and their date of birth."

This is relevant for QLD only.

[tom604]

I've used it a couple of times as ID for 100pt ID checks, including for a mortgage application, while I was waiting on a replacement drivers licence card for one I'd lost. Raised an eyebrow or two but nothing beyond that. I've also handed it over (by mistake, wasn't paying attention when I pulled it out of my wallet) as ID for a credit card when starting a bar tab. Bar chick didn't bat an eyelid - which to be honest surprised me a bit.

Myself, I wouldn't use it as a normal form of ID ordinarily simply because I'm not a huge fan of any more people than necessary, who I don't know, knowing both my address and that I have a firearm licence. I sort of get Tom604's point though - it should be perfectly normal.

no address on my licence date of birth ,name, picture,thats about it and you know why the bar chick didn't bat an eye??because you were just showing your MAN card ,,

[Barrettmr]

I have a high risk license with my name and photo on it issued by the Queensland gov, it's not good enough for id. I tried at a couple of places, they would only accept a drivers licence.

[duncan61]

It is the same no and same as a drivers licence in W.A.I had no Driving licence for a long time and used my firearm as a replacement all the time.Dont take it if its not accepted its 100pt I.D

[bullzeye]

Never had an issue, but preference is to use Drivers License

[Gamerancher]

The following is copied from the AusPost requirements for a police check.
Recently had to do this to renew an explosives/restricted goods licence.
It all depends on the level of scrutiny required.


100 Points of Identification Guide


Primary Documents Choose (0-1) Points
You Must Provide either:
• one primary document
or
• At least one secondary document that includes a photograph. Australian birth certificate(not an extract) or birth card
Australian citizenship certificate
Australian Passport (current or expired within the last two years)
International Passport (current) 70
70
70
70

Secondary Documents Choose (0-1) Points
Your initial document from this group will be awarded 40 points Australian driver licence or learners permit (current)
Australian photo firearms licence
State or federal government employee identity
Centerlink or social security card (current)
Department of veterans affairs card
Tertiary education institution photo identity 40
40
40
40
40
40

Secondary Documents Continued Choose (0-3) Points
All documents in this group will attach 25 points.

Only one card from each institution may be counted. Australian driver licence or learners permit (current)
Australian photo firearms licence
State or federal government employee photo identity
Centerlink or social security card (current)
Department of veterans affairs card
Tertiary education institution photo identity
Proof of age card 25
25
25
25
25
25
25

Secondary Documents Continued Choose (0-4) Points
All documents in this group will attach 25 points.

Only one card from each institution may be counted. Medicare card
Property lease / rental agreement
Council rate notice
Property insurance papers
A utility bill
Motor vehicle registration / insurance
Professional or trade association card
A financial institution debit / credit card
A financial institution passbook / statement
25
25
25
25
25
25
25
25
25

[Cooper]

I used my firearms arms licence at Australia Post to meet the I.D points criteria for my working with children check. The chick behind the counter looked at me like I was some sort of criminal. Now I wouldn't normally use my firearms licence as ID. But I needed to get the working with chrilden check sortted and it was the only card I had in my wallet that got me enough points of identification. Oh well.