AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Personally tried a few diffrent types of ammo with my 308 with the same configuration. Didnt find anything really that grouped too well. Got enough brass and tried a few of the 168gr zmax projectiles on top of 42gr of 2208 will consistently sit on under inch groups and around 3ish @ 300. I ended up buying 3 boxes of the zmax as they are no longer being produced, should see out the rifle. The 308 howa will be my go to hunting rifle and will only see the range to check zero. Hope this helps
powelly2006 wrote:Mate, that's more like what I'm after.
I like the SP projectile for hunting pigs (I live in FNQ).
With the aforementioned spread, what do you think about the loads? Which would you take, horizontal spread, or vertical spread with a slightly tighter group?
I won't be dropping any pigs from over 200, but ethically killing ferals is still important to me. If I can better understand these results, they should translate to better, faster knockdown.
I will also look at some alternative projectiles, but the Speers offered good value for money for a hunting round with very similar characteristics as the Winchester rounds I was buying factory.
sungazer wrote:Honestly I wouldn't be worrying about grouping much at all with that rifle. ( I am not knocking the rifle, All rifles are different and made for different purposes that one is a lightweight carrying hunter dont try benchrest with it.) I would select the weight of bullet you wish to use for your hunting. Then just concentrate on One shot getting it to hit where you aim. I would also do a 200yrd, 300rd test so you know your drop for that round. you could try a follow up shot to see how close it is but that is about all you need to worry about.
Stix wrote:AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Personally tried a few diffrent types of ammo with my 308 with the same configuration. Didnt find anything really that grouped too well. Got enough brass and tried a few of the 168gr zmax projectiles on top of 42gr of 2208 will consistently sit on under inch groups and around 3ish @ 300. I ended up buying 3 boxes of the zmax as they are no longer being produced, should see out the rifle. The 308 howa will be my go to hunting rifle and will only see the range to check zero. Hope this helps
What the...???
Is that right , Zmax no longer made, or just the 30 cal's...?
(Sorry for intrusion guys )
pomemax wrote:150gr SPBT Speers trimming your case good then are you crimping? to many questions firing from a rest or bi pod sitting /standing /prone? what sort of scales reloading press are you using
sungazer wrote:Interpreting your groups requires more information. Being a light barrel they tend to heat up quickly and can walk. so any group testing you do needs to really let the barrel cool down to nearly the same temp. But if you want to recreate a field type event where you may do one quick follow up shot. Then use that as your testing just two shots.
In general Vertical spread is down to technique, setup and ammunition consistency if it was out further. Horizontal often wind but can also be technique ie pulling of the trigger follow through.
A good guide can be found here. http://www.vra.asn.au/documents/FClassT ... Course.pdf
bigfellascott wrote:Is it in one of those plastic Hogue stocks? If so they are notorious for flex so might be pushing turds up hill with chopsticks to get better out of it. Personally I reckon it would be better to set up some gongs (5" size) or thereabouts at 100, 200 and 300m get a good steady rest as best you can and see if you can hit them with reasonable consistency.
Barrettmr wrote:I have the same rifle, and found that 46gr 2208 with 150gr hornady interlocks gave me around 1.25/1.5 at 100. It's only a short range pig gun for me so that's as far as I went.
Barrettmr wrote:I have the same rifle, and found that 46gr 2208 with 150gr hornady interlocks gave me around 1.25/1.5 at 100. It's only a short range pig gun for me so that's as far as I went.
powelly2006 wrote:Barrettmr wrote:I have the same rifle, and found that 46gr 2208 with 150gr hornady interlocks gave me around 1.25/1.5 at 100. It's only a short range pig gun for me so that's as far as I went.
Yeah nice.
It's a great little rifle. Functions well, and will serve its purpose perfectly out in the scrub.
If I can get my groups to close up a little I'd be happier than a pig in s**t.
I suppose, as the title of the topic suggests, for me it's more about interpreting the results more than anything... Just so I know the next step. It will also help me with my load developments for future rifles.
What are you paying for the Hornady projectiles ? I think I'm paying $58 for 100 at my local gun shop in Cairns. Believe I can get better projectiles cheaper up on the tablelands, but I'm okay spending that money on the Speer SPBT.
powelly2006 wrote:Barrettmr wrote:I have the same rifle, and found that 46gr 2208 with 150gr hornady interlocks gave me around 1.25/1.5 at 100. It's only a short range pig gun for me so that's as far as I went.
Question of curiosity, what optics are you using ?
I've currently got a horrible Nikko Stirling 3-9x40. I was looking at an Athlon Talos 3-12x40 as an affordable hunting upgrade.
Ziad wrote:How much 2208 would you put. As adi doesn't have any data on zmax... or just use Sierra 168 specs as reference. Thanks